RE: Top 10 reasons the PS3 is failing (WTF?)
This is a rebuttal to a recent article by DigitalBattle entitled: Top 10 reasons the PS3 is failing
While I really disdain giving this site the traffic, it’s not a bad read if you have a good sense of humor.
For a moment I thought our beloved friends at the DigitalBattle had an issue with their RSS feed. They did a blast-from-the-past editorial list that was using data from quite some time ago. Evidently they have been living in a cave for the past two years and have not been updated on some of the the successes PS3 has seen in that time.
For the sake of being comprehensive I will respond to this one line item at a time. A few of the line items were very similar so this list is really a top six and not a top ten.
10: Too Two many confusing SKUs
At this point in time, Sony only has two standard SKUs available via most retail channels. The 80 GB Edition and the 160GB Uncharted Edition. I have to assume the author can’t count to two. Furthermore, none of the PS3 SKUs are gimped, each one comes with at least an 80GB hard drive and WiFi. Xbox 360 on the other hand has three SKUs. One of which doesn’t have a hard drive, and was clearly manufactured to reach a price point and not gamer’s expectations. As far as the SKUs being confusing there are far more inconsistencies in the history of the Xbox 360 SKUs then there are in the history of PS3 SKUs. Does your Xbox have HDMI, how about a hard drive? My PS3 does, they all do.
9: Controller SNAFU
It is 2009, we are still hearing about the boomerang controller from E3 2005? How does a prototype controller design that never went into mass production have anything to do with the success or failure of an entire platform? When the PS3 was released it came packed with the more familiar shaped SixAxis. While this did lack the rumble features, it did add motion support. The SixAxis motion support was not as robust as a WiiMote, there are many games that use the SixAxis features lightly and they pull it off quite well. Early PS3 games (2006, early 2007) tried to rely to heavily on the technology for user input. After the Immersion lawsuit was settled in 2007, Sony released the DualShock 3.
8: Sony arrogance
Sony’s arrogance pretty much ended when Ken Kutaragi left Sony in 2007. Love him or hate him, he is the father of PlayStation. The same console that brought video games out of the back of CES and helped to create E3. Arrogance alone will not cause your products to fail. Steve Jobs are great examples of this; everything you do you are locked into Apple. Although Sony has not completely opened up the PS3, the platform does have many features that provide PS3 customers with choice outside of the Sony brand. The Xbox 360, by design, requires that any significant upgrades use Microsoft parts, which are limited in options.
Blu-Ray is hands down the best visual and audio experience you can have in your home. The fact is, if you can’t see the difference between Blu-Ray and a DVD, then you may need to consider getting an HDTV. Sony saw and seized the opportunity to launch a new format to satisfy both needs. True next gen gaming requires additional storage to deliver that experience. John Carmack at ID Software is on record with his concerns with the relatively tiny storage afforded on the Xbox 360.
Blu-Ray was a huge risk for Sony, but they proved they had the moxie to pull it off. What do you do with an HD-DVD attachment that goes for $40 on ebay?
7: A developer’s bag of hurt
Most of your developer bitch fest about the PS3 was when the hardware was still very new. The thing was a beast. Surprisingly, most of the louder (and fatter) developers out there were using the Xbox 360 as their primary development platform. Criterion, for example, started development on the PS3 then ported to 360. The result was a multiplatform game that looks great on both systems and no fanbait developer comments for us to chew on.
Valve is already eating crow; Sony’s PS3 development platform has come leaps and bounds from where it was in its infancy. They have a huge amount of development talent that shares information on how to tame the beast. This information often makes its way into the development platform in some form or another.
I have to categorically reject that making a platform easy to code for is some kind of shangri-la of the ultimate gaming experience. Furthermore if it’s true, everyone should already own a PS3 because LittleBigPlanet requires NO programming skills and you can create games with literally no budget. 
6: (Very) Expensive manufacturing costs
Coincides with…
2: Still the most expensive console
Cutting-edge components carry a price tag. As a hard core gamer, I want my console of choice to include high quality cutting-edge technology. I prefer the former strategy over the use of nearly off-the-shelf components, throwing it together in a manufacturing plant that is the lowest bidder, and dealing with any hardware issues in “software updates”. The worst thing about the Xbox strategy is, in the end, the gamers pay with a beautiful red ring. The PS1 and PS2 have proven Sony is committed to a 10-year lifespan for each console. The PS3, like the PS2, is a console that will last beyond its generation.
Is the PS3 the most expensive console or is it the best value? It wasn’t that long ago that Blu-Ray players were more expensive then PS3s. If you have a Hi Def television, Blu-Ray is the clear choice for your disc based movie viewing. While streams and upscaling are convenient features it’s often no match for the fidelity of Blu-Ray, and few selections offer true digital surround sound.
Anyone who purchases a PS3 can take it out of the box and log into the PlayStation Network completely unhindered by restrictions and free of charge. I can use virtually any USB device with the system which also has a flash-compatible web browser to boot.
5: Still no strong game library
Coincides with…
4: Weak Ports
Coincides with…
3: “Killer-apps”: too few, too late
Coincides with…
1: Loss of exclusive titles
Over the past year and a half the PS3 game library has been on par, if not better, than the Xbox 360’s. Many of the weak ports were mostly Pre-2008 and even more were pre-2007. Some have even received patches to correct the inadequacies. Whatever exclusives Sony has lost or were perceived to have lost, they have more then made up for with first party development.
In my opinion, the PS3 was a killer app out of the box. What it lacks in number of game titles it makes up for in quality. If you browse MetaCritic, you will find the average review score for PS3 games is higher than the average score for Xbox 360 or the dismally-scored Wii. That includes all the so-called weak ports. Which just goes to show how strong their first party library is.
At the end of the day, if you have a decent PC and a PS3, there is no reason why you won’t be able to play 95% of the games out there in some form or another. I am getting ahead of myself there, as that is for another story.
43 Responses to “RE: Top 10 reasons the PS3 is failing (WTF?)”
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March 10th, 2009 at 2:30 AM
i dont mind when somebody prefers the xbox over ps3, but when they have obviously wrong reasons then it bothers me.
the only weak points of sony is
1. not very good presentation of online components
2. long load times for downloads/ manual installing
03/10/2009 at 3:13 AM
I appreciate having manual installs of content, because what if you wanted to download something while doing something else? An automatic install would surely interrupt whatever else you were doing due to heavy hard drive access during install.
As far as the presentation of online components goes, it’s getting better and better as time progresses, that cannot be denied.
March 10th, 2009 at 4:47 AM
Almost completly agree on this one with you guys BUT…. still no strong games librabry isn’t true…. I have like 30 games in my collection ranging from good to superb …. and after going in defence on point 1 ‘loss of exlusives’ and stating all these fine games seems strange.
03/10/2009 at 9:59 AM
Well then you agree us. The article was a rebuttal, we believe the PS3 game library is strong here.
Richard Allen says03/10/2009 at 10:01 AM
I feel the same way as you. PS3 game library is strong.
March 10th, 2009 at 5:52 AM
too few too late, yeah right.
March 10th, 2009 at 6:44 AM
@John Vanderschuit
I have a 360 as well and I can say that it does indeed download and install all in background whether your playing a game or not. Obviously it wouldn’t download if you were online but that is the exact same as the PS3. Don’t get me wrong, I am a PS3 fanboy through and through just wanted to let you know that it is possible and has been done. Now SONY come on and update that firmware LOL.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:15 AM
That was what I wanted to do yetserday, a nice rebuttal to the one millionth “10 reasons why the PS3 is teh Suxorz”, the abridged version but alas my motormouth has no pulpit t preach from but the comment section.
Btw very good read Rich.
03/10/2009 at 1:03 PM
Thanks man.
I just couldn’t believe the dribble I was reading.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:26 AM
Here are the real reasons Sony is in 3rd
7. Fanboys… if you’re defending a product that has failed you personally 5 or more times while attacking 1 that would have failed you maybe 1 time in that same time span…. STFU
6. Microsoft is an American company. They know what Americans want. That’s why the 360 is only winning by large margins in America
5. Sony Marketing… Until they figure out what features they’re trying to sell, who they are trying to sell them to, and how to reach them effectively they are going to be in trouble. Part of the reason LBP didn’t sell as high as a lot expected.
4. Features… They need to start making things like Home Game Launching mandatory for all games that regularly have 300k or more people playing each week. Seriously… Oh and why do so few games seem to support custom soundtracks. Not to mention I KZ2 and R2 both have “Home Compatible” but with no “Home Compatibility” that I have discovered.
3. Broken promises, early publicity, and being left out… I’m still waiting on my trophy room, way too many promised features were counted before looking into legality in Home, and most importantly why is SCEE getting the shaft so often and where is our PSP Party program thingy?
2. Uneducated consumers… Face it if they don’t know the PS3 doesn’t have HDMI cables in the box, that they can get 1 for less than 5 dollars after shipping, and that a PS3 controller can control dvd playback…. they should have done research before spending the 400-600 dollars and most importantly it’s what scares away potential customers due to rumors caused by Xbots.
1. Time… You can do a lot of damage with a year head start. Especially if you build up a fanbase that will defend you no matter what, limit and cater to your base, market it right to your base, get your features mandatory, don’t make promises, use hidden costs to trick consumers, and have a ton of money… You can do a lot.
The knows their market, caters to it, limited themselves to their target, etc…
Sony designed a console for everyone, but it’s almost impossible to market a product to EVERYONE without coming off negatively in some major way.
That’s my opinion.
03/12/2009 at 5:09 PM
“7. Fanboys… if you’re defending a product that has failed you personally 5 or more times while attacking 1 that would have failed you maybe 1 time in that same time span…. STFU”
Actually most of my friends that have Xbox 360’s have had numerous failures, either RROD or Drive Failures. I had an Xbox 360 I won from a contest and it had to be sent back to MS. I got it back sold it and I got a PS3 (launch version). It’s still at my house running reliably.
“6. Microsoft is an American company. They know what Americans want. That’s why the 360 is only winning by large margins in America”
The 360 was released a year before the PS3, that explains most of the sales differentials. Also if you figure in a 20% – 30% failure rate any of the systems sold last year and earlier, the sales numbers are not that far off. Also you are conveniently ignoring the fact that the 360 has COMPLETELY FAILED in JAPAN. While MS may have a marginal lead, they do not have a Global Reach.
“5. Sony Marketing… Until they figure out what features they’re trying to sell, who they are trying to sell them to, and how to reach them effectively they are going to be in trouble. Part of the reason LBP didn’t sell as high as a lot expected.”
LBP has sold over 2 million copies. Sony dropped the jack of all trades white room ads a long time ago. Wake up smell the coffee it’s 2009 and Sony has the momentum and plenty of true first party exclusives.
“4. Features… They need to start making things like Home Game Launching mandatory for all games that regularly have 300k or more people playing each week. Seriously… Oh and why do so few games seem to support custom soundtracks. Not to mention I KZ2 and R2 both have “Home Compatible” but with no “Home Compatibility” that I have discovered.”
I agree, but not having these features are not costing them hardware sales. Your average consumer isn’t pressed about game launching. There is no way in hell someone isn’t getting a PS3 today because Game Launching is gimped.
“3. Broken promises, early publicity, and being left out… I’m still waiting on my trophy room, way too many promised features were counted before looking into legality in Home, and most importantly why is SCEE getting the shaft so often and where is our PSP Party program thingy?”
WTF are you talking about? Is this more 2006, 2007 bs? When are you Xbotters going to enter 2009? You might need a review of 2008, you know the year the PS3 didn’t get Dreamcasted?
“2. Uneducated consumers… Face it if they don’t know the PS3 doesn’t have HDMI cables in the box, that they can get 1 for less than 5 dollars after shipping, and that a PS3 controller can control dvd playback…. they should have done research before spending the 400-600 dollars and most importantly it’s what scares away potential customers due to rumors caused by Xbots.”
Again — WTF are you talking about? This really sounds like you are splitting hairs here bro.
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1. Time… You can do a lot of damage with a year head start. Especially if you build up a fanbase that will defend you no matter what, limit and cater to your base, market it right to your base, get your features mandatory, don’t make promises, use hidden costs to trick consumers, and have a ton of money… You can do a lot.”
Is English your first language? You might want to try to use complete sentences!
I am trying to understand you past couple of line items, but your thoughts are broken.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:39 AM
Nice but I do agree with #10, there are WAY too many sku’s out there. Sony needs to put out 1 maybe 2 consoles and leave it at that. There was no reason to come out with a 160 gig model, that’s just the biggest waste of money IMO….cuz sony guess what!!!! YOUR HDD IS UPGRADABLE, no point in spending another 100+ dollars on an 80 gig upgrade when I can get 500 gigs for that price.
Other than that SONY lacks in the online big time but over the last year they have certainly come a long ways…almost up to par with xbox live.
03/10/2009 at 11:14 AM
Sneeches, You might need to re-read the piece!
Sony only has 2 SKUS. Anything else is short term game bundles that aren’t actually new SKUs but old SKUs bundled with new games.
Sony has 2 SKUs…
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3
80GB and 160GB
MS has 3…
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/compare101.htm
None of the past SKUs are available via standard channels.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:14 AM
there are only 2 SKU’s right now, Yes before this there were way too many but not anymore.
good article, there are so many good exclusive games for the PS3 and the multiplatform games play great on it. Sony just needs to start coming through on promises or not promising things until they know for sure they can deliver, need to start advertising better and continue to add great features.
03/12/2009 at 5:10 PM
Thanks!
March 10th, 2009 at 9:49 AM
1. Reason why sony’s not doing as well, is lack of JRPG’s. Would really like to see more.
03/10/2009 at 1:06 PM
JRPGs really don’t do that spectacular outside of Japan. There are some notable exceptions. I am afraid that the most prolific JRPG days are probably behind us.
Japan is starting to get turned on to the Shooter (it’s a bout freaking time).
March 10th, 2009 at 10:05 AM
jws, while i agree i would like to see more that is not the reason bro. The main stream of gamers now just don’t care too much for JRPG’s, especially considering a lot of JRPG franchise just refuse to change even in the slightest.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:41 AM
I always wondered why people talk about the boomerang controller, IT NEVER CAME OUT! I don’t understand how that even made the list. Anyone who says the PS3 does not have a great library is crazy. The Xbox has a great library if you play FPS all day. I would much rather play GOW, Uncharted, KZ2, V. Chronicles, and MGS4 than Halo.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:51 AM
perhaps the old , “if Sony lowered the price” argument might help sales. That and educate the consumer using advertising, I don’t recall seeing any LBP advertising outside of gamer websites, etc.
btw, the Bozo-faced atomic bloom pic looks cool.
03/10/2009 at 1:07 PM
That is Sweet Tooth from Twisted Metal.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Great article! I really enjoyed it.
03/12/2009 at 5:12 PM
Thanks, I enjoyed writing it. I wanted it to come off factual and not fanboy based.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:59 AM
lol I read that article along with the “CGI artist” article. I don’t know which one was worse.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:43 AM
That list is pretty funny.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:52 AM
shouldnt call the guy fat. kinda messed up. but he is an annoying ass. and this article was funny. should do some more of these these rebuttals everyonce in a while
03/12/2009 at 5:16 PM
You know, Gabe Newell went off and said Sony should scrap the PS3 and start over.
For that comment, he will always be Gabe Newell fat loud mouth in my eyes.
If he wasn’t so loud mouthed, I would not have felt compelled to point out he is like Jabba the Hutt.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:07 PM
the things people will rehash to write an article. the guy seams to not be good at research.
03/12/2009 at 5:16 PM
I think he was dropped on his head as a baby.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:24 PM
I love the comparison image they have of The Orange Box LOL. I’m neither a PS3 nor a Xbox fanboy but I really hate reading articles like on DigitalBattle that are misleading and incorrect.
On another note are we still allowed to reply to peoples comments or is that just an admin thing now?
03/10/2009 at 1:08 PM
Admin only I am afraid. We have forums, you should check them out.
March 10th, 2009 at 2:28 PM
I think one of the main reasons , which has passed now to an extent, was that freakin 600 dollar price tag at launch.
A launch 60 gig plus a game and 2 controllers for me was almost a thousand dollars.
I ate the price tag cause I was lucky enough to have some spare money, but I think a majority of the initial vitriole from the launch price will remain a thorn in Son’ys side until they drop the price low enough for all the cheap bastards <–can I say bastards, to afford one.
03/12/2009 at 5:17 PM
I slapped down over $700 when I picked mine up.
March 10th, 2009 at 2:44 PM
about time we ps3 fans have a debunker of xbot myths,thank you and keep up the good work.rip them xbots a new one!!!
03/12/2009 at 5:19 PM
Hey, let me know if you see more pieces like this, I am more then happy to set a few Xbotters in their place.
I will RedRing them ALL!
let me know…
rich.allen@playstationlifestyle.net
March 10th, 2009 at 4:32 PM
it amazes how people live with so much denial when it’s so easy to open your eye and open your mind. the information’s out there and freely accessible. (referring to the writer of the original article.)
03/12/2009 at 5:19 PM
They were going for hits with this article. No integrity at all.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:42 PM
i lol’d
March 10th, 2009 at 8:35 PM
MakaiOokami Says:
6. Microsoft is an American company. They know what Americans want. That’s why the 360 is only winning by large margins in America
@MakaiOokami
Microsoft knows what Americans want? Really? So Sony was just lucky with the PS1 and PS2, right? No one knew what Americans wanted until big, bad Microsoft stepped into the picture and changed American gaming forever, right? Give me a break.
Microsoft is an American company. That was the only thing that was right in that statement. Like many American companies, Microsoft is peddling a lesser quality product than the competition for a quick buck. Does GM or Ford ring any bells? They know all about ignoring the competition because they supposively knew what Americans wanted. Look at them. The only difference is that Microsoft has legions of followers that will willingly swallow gallons of shit for a product that will likely fail (the red ring of i-should-have-bought-a-PS3). Microsoft also isn’t drowing in terrible management, so they at least have that going for them.
Also, I want to know how fanboys are hindering the success of the PS3. Oh, wait. I get it. I refuse to buy a console that has a dedicated following, too.
No one is refusing to buy a PS3 because it doesn’t come with an HDMI cable. They also aren’t refusing to buy a PS3 because Sony sells a Blu-Ray remote. That’s idiotic. I don’t know where you’re getting your facts, but they’re not correct. Also, no one is spending $600 on a PS3 anymore.
You seem to believe that the PS3 is failing because of its lack of features. If I’m not mistaken, the PS3 comes with a lot more features than the Xbox. I mean, for God’s sake, the Xbox doesn’t even have WiFi. And you’re complaining about the lack of PS3 features.
Please.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:41 PM
nuclear, what makai meant to say is that microsoft knows what college frat boy americans and 14-18 year old little boys who cannot afford the PS3 want
March 11th, 2009 at 1:14 AM
This kind of article made me think, how those so called video game journalist are sooooo biased toward the Xbot3shit system. If you look of what PS3 has to offer out of the box, no system out there can compare. If you look at the PS3 exclusive you will notice variety no the same kind of game. So like the article mention if you have a PS3 and a PC you has 95% of the video games available, but if you have a Xbot3shit and a PC you only have 70% of the video games available.
03/12/2009 at 5:21 PM
You are preaching to the Choir!
The 95% thing is my next story. Still formulating it.
March 11th, 2009 at 1:40 AM
@Sneeches
The newer SKUs aren’t only just getting larger hard drive capacity, they are also reworking the innards of the system, lowering the overall number of components, etc. For example, notice the lack of ventilation in the bottom parts of newer 80GB/160GB models compared to the launch 20GB/60GB.
New SKUs mean better functionality and hopefully more stability and performance, not just a little more storage. But they’re also increasing the amount of storage as the cost per GB decreases, giving new buyers more storage.
But these new SKUs also phase out old SKUs. For instance, the 40GB/80GB replaced the 20GB/60GB. The 80GB/160GB replaced the 40GB/80GB. Chances are, soon the 80GB will be replaced with another SKU as Sony moves to the smaller Cell chips, and maybe a price cut along with that………. ……….. ………..
March 11th, 2009 at 2:17 AM
I should also mention that Microsoft has also had multiple revisions of their hardware, as they have continued to try to get rid of the RRoD, unsuccessfully.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware
I count 5 different hardware revisions just for the motherboard. Then you have the different levels… Core (now discontinued), Arcade, Pro and Elite. That makes 20 different hardware combinations. WOW! Now THAT is confusing!
Not to mention that the 3 different configurations vary MUCH more widely than the 2 PS3 configurations.
03/12/2009 at 5:22 PM
HW Revisions can create problems with compatibility too.
March 11th, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Interesting article, great read.
The PlayStation 3 is catching up, more exclusive games are coming so we have nothing to worry about. The future looks great.
03/12/2009 at 5:22 PM
If you look at sales figures since launch, the PS3 is exceeding the NextGen trail blazed by 360.
March 12th, 2009 at 7:34 AM
Some more information for those that do not know:
http://www.nyleveia.com/2009/01/27/console-wars-my-02/
so fed up with all the trash talk on the interweb, peace to all gamers!!
March 16th, 2009 at 6:50 AM
Good article, Richard.
March 21st, 2009 at 2:16 AM
“the only weak points of sony is
1. not very good presentation of online components
2. long load times for downloads/ manual installing”
trex.. I dis agree with DL times.. the problem I have is that the install times are longer the DL times. it takes me 5 min to DL something that installs in 10
P.S. new to site and do not know how to quote yet.. sorry for the quotation marks
March 24th, 2009 at 10:09 AM
I’ve wanted a PS3 since the boomerang controller was first a topic. I waited until that $600 would also get me a Dualshock, Killzone 2, and Little Big Planet. Microsoft didn’t know I wanted that I guess.
I just want to point out one thing about Sony advertising.
Who didn’t know, doesn’t know, that the PS3 exists? Who doesn’t know about Little big Planet? Who doesn’t know about God of War? Ummmm…… Metal Gear!?!?!? I mean come on… Metal Gear.. Does Sony really need to push these titles or advertise as hard as say… Hey does anyone have any Microsoft title names other than HALO to place in this part?
April 13th, 2009 at 9:18 PM
ps3 is a better system than the xbox360 cause if your a hardcore gamer then thse red rings will get onm 360 and the ps3 still standing
April 29th, 2009 at 4:32 AM
A game console is defined by its games, or rather, the games exclusive to that console. Over the years, the PS3s bad sales and steep developing costs has cost Sony several titles that were before exclusive to the platform, titles like Grand Theft Auto 4, Assassin’s Creed, Virtua Fighter 5, Devil May Cry 4 and Resident Evil 5, which will be released shortly on both the PS3 and Xbox 360. Not to mention the highly anticipated Final Fantasy XIII, which should hit the stores later this year.
Umm last time i looked, final fantasy was originally a NINTENDO exclusive, then it jumped to PS1 then PS2, and wait wasnt final fantasy XI only on XBOX and computer.. yet XII was on PS2 and nintendo… strange it seems its always been a jumper. who cares if a game isnt exclusive!!! if i was a developer id much rather sell to every console so i could sell the game to more people and make more money.. which is all its about to them!!!!
im DEFINATELY not a PS fanboy, if anything im nintendo.. but id much rather play LBP or Resistence that play Galo XD
May 12th, 2009 at 1:01 PM
This is the first article I’ve read on this site, and I’m not sure which is worse: the article you are ripping to shreds, or the way in which Richard Allen is attacking anyone who says it might have a point.
I own all three consoles from their respective launches and the one I use for games the most is the xbox. Personally, I prefer the 360 controller to the SIXAXIS, and I feel that all the online/friends/chat/party stuff works a lot better.
At the moment, the main reasons I still have my PS3 are for it’s PS2 compatibility (launch versions only), and that it is near silent. Makes watching DVDs much more enjoyable. Although I’d like to know why I can’t perform background downloads when watching DVDs. My ten year-old pc could do that.
05/12/2009 at 4:24 PM
Welcome to the site – I LOVE watching movies on my PS3. Hope you stick around though, few of our articles have the PO’ed attitude this one does, but really – when we cover the news all day – there are things that can grind our gears. Rich is a good guy and trying to clear up the misinformation around the PS3. There’s a lot of false info out there.
May 13th, 2009 at 6:53 PM
To be honest I actually dont think the PS3 is falling in many areas. It has pretry much caught up with the Xbox in sales and from what a see around me more people now want the PS3 for some unknown reason.
I am in no means a fanboy and also appreciate what the Xbox 360 offers, however, im not a great fan of it (out of personal preference). Saying that, the fact the the Xbox 360 has a large amount of exclusive titles etc kind of makes me jealous, and there are no bragging rights for Final Fantasy now lol.
May 20th, 2009 at 7:24 PM
Ok this is also my first day visiting PSLS. I have to say over all I like the site and I will be visiting it more for reviews and such.
I read this entire article, the article it responds to and all of the comments, and I have to say, as a LOVER of my PS3, the one feature that I think is really really sorely lacking is the web browser. Someone needs to take the guy that wrote that browser, and the guy that let him put in the system, out back and forced to commit senpai. How about this, lets get some open source code, lets say a company that’s been around for a while, that makes a rock solid web browser and is free, and put that into the console. Who here wouldn’t love to have Firefox on their PS3? Honestly any pc from the past 10 years could run firefox and have a better web experience than with the PS3 browser. The PS3 browser sucks, hands down, and should not be used by anyone who wants to use the web.
My second gripe, weil less of a gripe as much as a feature request. Why can’t I play some music (From my HD or Media Server) while I browse the web? or home? or life? or viewing pictures? Again that anaylgy a 10 year old PC could browse the web and play music from shoutcast.com? Why are these no brainer features missing?
A side from those 2 sore points, I think the PS3 is superior in every way to the xbox 360.
P.S. In my opinion the games that were released for the PS2 (God of War, Shadow of the Colossi, etc…) at the end of life cycle for the PS2, where better than any game released for the original xbox. Which probably gets into the developer issues mentioned in both articles. Xbox 360 came out first, had a year head start, so most of the games that were ported form xbox 360 to PS3 sucked.
P.P.S Also its my opposition that something should only relabeled “Next Gen” if the product includes technology that has not pre-existed in other products. Go look at the processors for Xbox 360 verses the PS3, then come back and talk to me about “Next Gen”…
June 10th, 2009 at 1:21 AM
@Richard Allen
@Richard Allen
MakaiOokami was supporting the article, He was refering to Xbot fanboys, not Sony. That was the failing 1 time compared to 5. He was telling xbots to STFU.
As far as what Americans want, they wanted shooters, XBox has a ton of them, and they want cheap, which xbox is compared to PS3 (Parents buying for kids are gonna go with Xbox over PS3)
Lack of coherent marketing for PS3 (How many PS3 commercials do you see on prime time TV?)
Uneducated consumers falls right there with the marketing stuff. Billy Bob doesn’t have a HD TV yet, and won’t until it’s the only kind of TV he can get ’cause his is good enough for him, and worrying about his job he isn’t going to drop $1000 on a TV and $600 for a game system, but he will drop $300ish for games. He already has a DVD player, and doesn’t see why he should get a B-Ray player since it won’t look any better (and really do many of us care that we can now see the starts zits, I for one don’t give a damn, the gf got the HD, I was happy with the SD TV)
The time he condensed too much, he was saying that MS already has a large install base, and a lot of people don’t see a reason to drop another few hundred for another system when for the most part, all the games they care about are on both (the shooters from above).
The MS target is the middle class suburbanite, the real middle class (know as the median* in math, as opposed to the mean), not the $100,000+ per year household, but the $45-75K group.
* http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/aug/27/nation/chi-census–dot–1aug27
I have all three consoles from this generation, and the last console I had (couldn’t really own since I was just a kid) was the Atari. Plus I have PSP’s and DS’s for the family (2 each, 2 kids with DS, 1 with PSP, and the GF has a PSP)
Wii was neat when it came out, XBox is good for Beutiful Katamari, but nothing else I can find since I don’t play shooters.
PS3 and PSP have the best games and hardware on average, but with the mass of games that Nintendo and MS have, they have some good games I’m sure. Scribblenauts souds interesting at least, I’m sure there are others.
I don’t see what people find so exciting about the XBox online stuff. Cross game chat is the only thing I’ve heard about that sounds worth a damn, but not as a monthly fee, If I want to talk, I’ll call.
So I am a fanboy, but not irrational, just Sony has made a better product and has better first party games in my oppinion, but MakaiOokami’s critisism is mostly right, his wording was a bit clunky, but I’m thinking you guys were in a bit of a mood when you read his post, so took it as an attack or something.
@jllamas: The processor for the XBox 360 is a IBM Power processer, just with 5 (I think, it could be 3) SPU’s instead of 8**. The power is close due to the XBox having a slightly better graphics chip, read some of the developers dialogs about the systems. The PS3 is better, but not drastically so, it’s more of the systems comming with all of the required stuff and not paying for online access that makes it a solid win (well the no red ring thing is nice too, I got my RRoD about a month into the XBox, but that was the only problem with it, probably because we don’t ever turn it on.)
** http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3904/processing_the_truth_an_interview_.php
Now if Sony would just put Opera on their systems for the web browser and bring the PSP GPS to the USA I’d be all happy
June 10th, 2009 at 1:22 AM
@nuclearwarfare
The second Richard Allen was supposed to be you.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:23 AM
Is anyone actually defending Gabe Newell? I mean this is a guy who got Half Life 2’s source code stolen because the admin password to the pc that had the source was gnewell
This guy is a freaking moron, but I will admit I loved Half Life 2, but that wasn’t any thanks to it being delayed a year thanks to Pillsbury Doughgabe
August 23rd, 2009 at 7:00 AM
All i have to say is that sony has let slant 6 ( a psp company mind you) RUIN socom……
We’re awaiting patch number 5 and have yet to receive the feature advertised on the box of the game. Nor one single fucking map pack. WTF, SONY PULL YOUR HEADS OUT YOUR ASSES AND HAVE SOMEONE FIX THIS. I will never play anything other than ps3 but god damn the socom community has went fom 80,000+ consistent players online everyday down to 6,000.
P A T H E T I C. Its been 11 months and we’re still going through so many issues…….SAVE SOCOM SONY…….STOP BULLSHITTING
August 30th, 2009 at 8:32 PM
When i hear about PS3 exclusives being losed it is usually because M$ gives millions of sollars to the devs. As we all know GTA4 was supposed to be a PS3 exclusive but then M$ with all their money says to rockstar we will give you 80 million bucks to get this game on our system. What the hell man, it must be nice having all the money in the world. Well apparently rocksar hated the lack of space on the DVD9 (i heard it from someone on youtube his channel is goolgey) so GTA5 (or whatever they will call it) might be on PS3. Imagine GTA San andreas in hi def that would be badass.
September 17th, 2009 at 1:47 PM
obviously written by a 360 fan if he is saying the PS3 is failing