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Forza Developer Using Bribes to Skew CNET Poll

06/09/2009 Written by John Draisey

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We live in a very competitive world, and this is apparent in the video game industry where publishers and developers are constantly trying to get a leg up on their competition, whether it’s through clever marketing or brilliant feats of engineering. But what is NOT acceptable is when a publisher or developer uses bribes to gain an advantage. [shal]Che Chou[/shal], the community manager at Turn 10, has done exactly this, and we feel compelled to inform our readers about the dishonest tactics that the [shal]Forza[/shal] Motorsport developer has chosen to carry out.

Here is Chou’s post on the Forza forums:

“Hey all. Apparently, CNET.com is having a face-off between Forza and GT. We all know which game is we’d like to see win, so go here: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-10256571-48.html

And vote for Forza Motorsport 3! Afterwards, come to this thread and post a message letting us know you’ve done it. We’ll gift you a random unicorn! It’s that easy. Do it now!”

So what’s a “unicorn”? It’s a very rare type of car in Forza 2 that can only be found in the game’s Auction House. Some of them are sold for millions of credits, and are comprised of a handful of vehicles, including the 2005 Lotus Exige Espionage, and 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME. So the fact that Turn 10 is giving these out for free to users who vote for Forza over [shal]Gran Turismo[/shal] in CNET’s poll is a very big deal.

You can check out the Forza bribery forum thread here, where you can literally see feedback on how the poll’s results steadily turned in favor of Forza 3. Here are just a few of the comments you can find from the thread’s posters.

MorroidaZico:

“Done voting for Forza. But man, honestly, us Forza lovers know how better Forza is as a game, but for those who have no idea what a racing simultator is or what the two franchises are all about, the GT video looks a lot more appealing.”

LightnigWarr:

“Ha ha, you’re bribing us with a nice car …. I like it.”

Trystan Spyder:

“What are we basing these votes on? I’m not sure CNET would be happy to know that the developer of Forza were bribing people for votes.”

Lnin0:

“I voted Forza 3 but I have to say based on the trailers GT looks more impressive.”

Here’s what we’d like to know at PSLS: What’s your opinion on this matter? Is it fair to give out freebies in order to skew poll results? Let us know in the comment section below.

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78 Responses to “Forza Developer Using Bribes to Skew CNET Poll”

  1. GATORJV Says:

    WOW! Seriously? That is fucked up.

    Matt2005USAF says

    Everybody vote for GT5!!!

  2. kamikaze135 Says:

    Wow so even the developers know that they can’t compete with GT5 since they need to bribe people, lmao.

  3. sobrguy Says:

    dirty, dirty bastards!!!

  4. TheWickedOne Says:

    Sad

  5. Moyayo Says:

    thats all kinds of fucked up, and only die hard xbotz think forza is better. everyone who is a true gamer knows that GT is the gold standard for racers…. period

  6. SPD55 Says:

    Guess what game I am buying no matter what the bribes are. I have been a GT fan since my PS2 and GT3 aSpec.

    To bribe for votes shows a lack of confidence in his product. And if he don’t have confidence then why would I buy it…

  7. Jaxx377 Says:

    So much for the quote” Definitive Racing game of this generation”.

  8. Matthew Whitney Says:

    I don’t see Polyphony Digital giving people free cars for GT5 when it comes out…Turn 10 are a bunch of idiots that don’t even have faith in their own game, and if they really have to bribe people to get their game to win (Which it is now thanks to this FUCKING bribe) then that is the saddest thing of all. Soon Microsoft will be giving free blowjobs with every Xbox 360 purchase!

  9. ROBERT316 Says:

    I can’t believe they did that…..serious poor sports manship

  10. sobrguy Says:

    @ Mat

    what do we get if we do? lol

    Matt2005USAF says

    Ummmm….Free PSN cards* for all that vote…come back here and tell us when you’ve done it! *PSN cards will not be handed out…at all* :)

  11. Kyle P. Says:

    Wow…That’s sad.

  12. Pesico Says:

    Just wrote a post in that thread saying I voted GT5:p Wonder if it will stir up things.

    http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/permalink/2639140/2639140/ShowThread.aspx#2639140

    John Draisey says

    Haha, nice.

  13. ElectroBoy Says:

    i though Forza 3 was “definitve racing game for this generation” so why oh why would they need to bride people to vote for their “definitive game???”
    absolutely pathetic, desperate and shocking
    GT forever 4tw

  14. Matthew Whitney Says:

    GT5 should now be called GT5 The Real Driving Simulator That Is Way Better Than Forza 3…

  15. Brent Says:

    Talk about bad business. There seems to be an article on Turn 10 every day. I hope this kind of dirty business will make them suffer in the long run. Imagine if Turn 10 was a political organization. They would be up there with Acorn. =)

  16. ElectroBoy Says:

    had to post a piece of my mind in that thread so heres what i wrote…

    “i just want to say and i hope the devs read this, i feel its absolutely pathetic that you are bribing people to fix an online poll, this tells me that you have no faith in your game and that you already feel GT5 is better

    i thought this game was the “difinitive racing game” so why on earth would you need to bribe people to vote for your game?

    and also if you think you can get anyone to believe that you E3 vid was in game your gonna be in a little surprise as if it was somehow ingame your physics engine must be absolutely terrible if you can get cars to move like that and if it was in-game it took you 1 MONTH to make! GT5s trailer was ALL in-game replay shots and it even looks better

    so i hope the devs behind this little skeem read this as i cant believe how desperately sad and pathetic what your trying and you only 10% ahead [N], bribing people and youre only 10% ahead haha

    glad for everyone else though who will get their free cars though but youve lost my respect

    and and GT5 aint “stagnent” but thats a whole over arguement that was pretty petty though trash talking to fellow developers

    i voted for GT5

    Scouser out!”

  17. smokey_vols Says:

    Voting for GT5!

  18. kRiMMeH Says:

    already got my vote anyways, but now i get a free car sweet!

  19. sobrguy Says:

    it is pretty funny that even with Forza’s “huge” community fan base and a “free gift”, GT5 isn’t all that far behind. if GT ends up winning the pole, i’ll laugh for a week.

  20. mzcbr Says:

    They’re getting desperate. It’s just funny how a prologue demo can be better than a full Forza game.

  21. DGR8Mc187 Says:

    This wreaks of desperation.

  22. Voyou San Says:

    shits weak!!

  23. nikrel Says:

    I’ve never really owned a racing game, first one i bought was Motostorm, I’m going to be buying GT5, After watching the videos and reading some stuff I really want it.

  24. toolfan2007 Says:

    This is so sad on so many levels!!!

    Fucking M$ are obivously shitting their pants after Sony knockout punch of a conference Sony delivered.

  25. Buddylee Says:

    I think it might have been on listen up! I heard them talking about if Turn 10 didnt sell a ton of Forza 3 they are probably going to be let go or shut down. They are probably trying everything they can to keep their game in the media.

  26. shadowjin Says:

    thats typical.

  27. Quinntan Says:

    Before I begin, I want to make clear that I absolutely love Gran Turismo and Forza. Gran Turismo does some things better than Forza and vice versa. So what? They’re both brilliant games, and when GT5 and FM3 come out, you can be sure I’ll have ‘em both.

    But really now, does anyone really think that a Cnet vote is all that important? They’re using that as an opportunity to reward the people who check in as part of their community. I’m surprised something similar hasn’t happened with the Gran Turismo community.

  28. lolunchartedlol Says:

    the only thing this proves is that Sony Fanboys are too retarded and stupid to get a JOKE … though i dont expect more from the followers of crazy ken , you guys enjoying your 4D games?

    thanks for the laugh playstationlifestyle , next time try harder if you want to post Fake news.

  29. Quinntan Says:

    @lolunchartedlol

    You idiot, that’s http://www.sonydefenseforce.com

  30. SolidCake_ Says:

    lolunchartedlol ****edit****

  31. lolunchartedlol Says:

    @Quinntan
    my point is pslifestyle is lying when the say Turn10 is bribing people when their community manager was only joking about the reward.
    that’s why i got angry.

  32. KCJohn Says:

    Shame on you Turn 10, Shame on you. No class

  33. sobrguy Says:

    sure the hell didn’t sound like a joke to me. but i’m laughing anyways so whatever.

  34. BlingOnMyWrist Says:

    Well, I voted GT5. Pretty sad that dev has to bribe people.

    We all know F3 would have been stomped by GT5.

  35. firesnake Says:

    I own both systems, and I’ve got to say points on both sides are low blows. I can’t condone T10s use of free gifts to skew votes (granted, it’s a useless arbitrary poll anyways… the racers can decide when the games come out)… but the level of animosity on the PD side just makes me feel like maybe I’m not in the right place either.

    Competition will always be better for the genre, because is promotes technological leaps. I’ve got to say forza’s got the physics engine down a little better, just like GT5 will have the graphics. To continue to argue the point is fruitless… I hope both win in the long run, because it’s better for all of us… if you disagree, you’re after something more than a good game and probably aren’t worthy of the respect I have for both communities

    Also, here’s a perfect example of why internet polls are completely useless 99% of the time and anyone who’s been online shouldn’t give them credit: http://musicmachinery.com/2009/04/15/inside-the-precision-hack/

  36. AxeCain Says:

    The damn thing is rigged!!!! voted once i was vote #7150 then i tried voting again on my other computer and there i was #7149 wtf!!!! I did this in that order to.

  37. xxEvilGremlinxx Says:

    I remember when they sony first announced gt5 4 years ago and on the website they showed screenshots of Project Gotham Racing which was a launch title on the 360. This just shows that the people at sony are incapable at producing a game that is as good or better than anything on xbox. 4 years later and still no Gran Turismo game on playstation maybe all you fanboys could hope that it will finally release by the time the PS5 comes out in 2028. So stop your crying already and just face the facts that the 360 is the better system and if you want to play a good racing game buy a 360 with forza 3

    John Draisey says

    4 years ago? On ‘the website’? Can you prove this, or even show what you’re referring to? There’s a lot of websites out there…

  38. Buddylee Says:

    @EvilGremlinxx

    Go back to blowing Don Mattrick.

  39. Brent Says:

    @xxEvilGremlinxx:
    And who are you to call anyone a fanboy? Fanboy…

  40. knucklessg1 Says:

    Forza can kiss my sorry a$$ cuz they are only doing this because they KNOW they will lose against gran turismo 5. I mean, we ALL know that gt5 is mUCH MUCH better than forza 3 right?

  41. xxEvilGremlinxx Says:

    4 years was a bit off it was more like 2 or so but here’s the link that proves I’m right just copy and paste it to read the story

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6164738.html

  42. xxEvilGremlinxx Says:

    “”"Brent Says:

    June 10th, 2009 at 12:29 AM
    @xxEvilGremlinxx:
    And who are you to call anyone a fanboy? Fanboy”"”

    I’ll admit when a system is better, Istill think the PS2 is one of the best systems ever produced but going by this generation of consoles the xbox 360 beats the PS3 hands down plus I have played every game in the Gran Turismo series and every game in the Forza series and I think Forza is alot better game.

  43. Curt2k1 Says:

    I had to sign up for this just to comment hehe.

    I am one of the biggest fans of racing games, I’m not great at them but I simply love them. There are very few multiplayer games out there take are pure skill to win, in most games there are plays you can call over and over to win for instance, there is nothing you can do in a racing game other than be on your game to win however. I especially love sim racers, I started playing with the original Gran Turismo in fact.

    I chose an Xbox over a PS2 and got addicted to Forza, thus the only GT games I have played are the first 2. I never had the luxury to own a PS2 sadly, as it is a great console to this day, I do however own a PS3 and Xbox 360. The main reason I bought my PS3 was for Blu-ray, but I also knew that there are games that I simply would not be able to live without, games like the next GT, Final Fantasy, and God of War. I bought the 360 because I really liked the Halo franchise, and Forza, also PGR.

    I honestly must say I prefer the Xbox over my PS3 any day of the week, I have picked up some games for the PS3 to play with my friend who only has a PS3 and I don’t even play them because they suck so bad. The games I am talking about are NHL 09, Skate 1, and 2, I even tried out Killzone, and MGS4 (actually came with the PS3) and they were not my cup of tea, but certainly ran better than the other games I mentioned. I really wanted to pick up GT5p but never could justify $45 for it as it is a demo, a guy I work with ended up buying it and really didn’t like it, I asked if I could borrow it and he said sure. So I have played it and frankly from everything I read about it I had high expectaions, all these people who say it is so much better than Forza are LYING.

    The final game may very well be better than Forza 3, but for anyone to say that GT5p is better than Forza 2 is just not right at all. The physics alone in GT5p feel exactly how I remember them in the original GT, and that is not a good thing. I think the game itself looks stunning, there is no question GT5p is the best looking racer out there in my mind, but it doesn’t come close to Forza 2 in features and gameplay.

    Now for anyone who wants to say Forza 3 is the best you are wrong, for anyone that wants to say GT5 is the best you are wrong, iracing.com is hands down the best racing simulator out there, anyone who does not believe me try it, you can get a free 30 day trial if you do your homework and you will see what a real racing sim is all about.

    For all the people who say GT5 will be better than Forza 3 or the other way around, you are all idiots as no one has played the final versions of either game. Lastly for all your stupid fanboys on both sides get both fucking consoles and stop bitching, I will be picking up GT5 and Forza 3, so I win more than any of you who only get 1.

    Lastly, making a ‘news’ story out of this is just as bad as us Forza voters being ‘bribed’ to vote. Had I know about this poll any other way I would have voted for Forza 3 as it showed a lot more gameplay to me than the GT5 trailer did, I don’t recall seeing anything in the GT5 trailers that said it was actual gameplay.

  44. John Draisey Says:

    @Curt2K1,
    The physics for GT5: Prologue feel pretty similar to past iterations unless you use Professional Mode. There’s a reason driving professionals rely on GT, and not other racing simulators, in order to practice before their races. For driving, it really is the most accurate game on the market.

    The advantage that Forza really has is its paint system, which has allowed for the coolest custom designs we have ever seen from the gaming community. And, ironically, I’ve seen a lot of car mod professionals rely on Forza 2 in order to plan their decal designs ahead of time. Same benefits as GT, just in a different area.

    I liked how Polyphony Digital has been keeping track of developments by other game developers and have seeked to incorporate those features. I would like nothing more than a GT game with a built-in paint design system so we could not only modify the feel of our cars, or the body parts, but the actual look.

    Considering the Need for Speed series is currently tackling the Simulation genre, Forza’s pretty much our only hope for feeding our need to customize and modify the cars we love.

  45. wasim007 Says:

    what a shameÉÉ

    forza is a mediocre franchise. no one cares about forza

    what a shameÉÉÉ

    turn 10 is trying to compete with GT with that crap and dead franchise

  46. wasim007 Says:

    “evilbot above

    forza is not even in the league of GT5

    GT5 runs at 1080p…flopza 3 aty 720p

    GT5 has 2x the amount of tracks as flopza 3

    GT5 looks wayyyyyyyyyyy better than flopza 3

    GT5 has 800 cars vs juts 400 for fliopza3

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  48. dogmanx23 Says:

    Thats so sad.. Forza 3 fails with this alone and i wish more sites reported on this. Pretty sad attempt to get hype for your game.

  49. marcindpol Says:

    i love GT series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  50. Curt2k1 Says:

    @John Draisey
    “There’s a reason driving professionals rely on GT, and not other racing simulators”

    Actually if you check out iracing.com you will see professional racers using that as the tracks are scanned with lasers and are the most accurate to their real life counterparts.

    I did set the mode to professional and do not see how that is an accurate portrayal of real life driving at all, I even used a G25 in hopes the controller was the issue and still not satisfied with the feel compared to iracing.com

  51. John Draisey Says:

    @Curt2k1,
    Wow, that is really cool. Just bookmarked iRacing.com

  52. Curt2k1 Says:

    @John Draisey
    Yea its by far the best sim I’ve played, I found a 30 day trial of it somewhere online. Other than that it definitely gets pricey, but they have some package deals you can get.

  53. Jeneric Says:

    so basically forza has admitted defeat.

  54. doctorstrange Says:

    The math-

    Page 1 of 103 (2,054 items) – the number of comments for receiving a unicorn, factoring in double posts etc its around 2000 votes.

    13181 votes for Forza 3
    12490 votes for GT5
    difference – 691 in Forza 3’s favour

    Take away the 2000 votes leaves 11181 votes for Forza 3
    and 12490 votes for GT5
    difference – 1309 in GT5’s favour

    So if you factor this in GT5 is in the lead. HOWEVER a vast proportion of these people would probably have voted for F3 anyway, so it is safe to say that they are both neck and neck, in a poll that does not mean anything.

  55. Ryan Ordway Says:

    One word: sad.

  56. GATORJV Says:

    Wait, I am a fanboy for thinking that is fucked up? Last time I checked I DIDN’T say anything about a system. I just said I think it was fucked up they were doing this, just like I would if it was the makers of GT5 doing it.

    @Curt:
    See I am in a different trend, FPS are not my “cup of tea”. So I was given the PS3 as a present and must say I am happy I got one. I love MGS4 and games like that, as well as like you said GOW, FF, etc. The better system is by opinion, how hard is it for people to see that?

    @Evil:
    So Evil, when you say a system is better, that makes it so? Are you the tell all on everything? I disagree with you and think the PS3 is better and play it everyday, but does that mean it is better? NO. So yes, I will call you a fan boy. As the saying goes, “different stroked for different folks.” Here is a good idea, you stick with Xbox and I will stick with the PS3. Each has it pluses and minuses for every person. The PS3 is better for me, I love it and am so glad I got one instead of the 360. You seem to like the 360 and are probably glad you got one over a PS3. Enjoy your system man and stop hating so much. Is it that hard for everyone to see it is opinion based? I mean KZ2 has amazing graphics imo, but that doesn’t mean you think so. Also, if you do reply to this, don’t bring up sales please because that has nothing to do with anything. Of course the Xbox is ahead, it came out a year earlier. Who really cares anyways? The Wii has outsold both systems by a huge amount, does that mean it is better then 360 or PS3 (I would be surprised if any non-casual gamer does)? Man, rant over. I just hate being called a fanboy for liking one system over another. Oh no, I am a Football fanboy because I like it better than basketball! Give me a break. lol. :p

  57. BlingOnMyWrist Says:

    Haha, see that. I sent your article to two websites and now GT5 is up 1000 votes today (as apposed to down 2000 last night).

    http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/06/10/forza-3-better-than-gt-5-says-vote/

    http://www.ps3news.com/forums/console-news/forza-developer-using-bribes-skew-cnet-poll-results-106428.html

  58. Robotron Says:

    You know I wasn’t going to buy GT at all, but these guys have been such asses lately now I’m going to on launch day…..way to go idiots up the GT5 sales.

  59. xobi Says:

    Which racing sim will be the best? (Poll Closed)
    Gran Turismo 5 52% (15731 votes)
    feedback bar
    Forza Motorsport 3 48% (14530 votes)
    feedback bar
    Total Votes: 30261

    thats the final result.
    funniest thing is that this is the final result. GT still won.
    Moreover, i wont say forza is a bad game infact i think its a great game in its own right, but so is gt5. Imitation is the best form of flattery and i think forza has imitated GT on many aspects.

  60. Sleepyg Says:

    I think this is one of the most blasphemous blog articles I have ever read. First off, how is offering an incentive to vote for Forza on a FORZA FORUM a bribe? Those people were going to vote for Forza anyway. It’s a smart form of marketing.

    Secondly, this article was just a scandalous attempt to draw PS3/GT fans to participate in the vote. See what happens here? This blog is contradictory. You’re trying to use bad press to gain votes for your beloved game. Now that is a shady tactic. What Turn 10 did was smart.

    I think that Playstation Lifestyle is just pissed off that Turn 10 thought of that idea first. The tactics that they used are the same as a website would use to have their users vote for them in the Webbys.

    I’m sick of PSLifestyle. The slanderous articles are outrageous and you have lost complete credibility with me.

  61. GT5comesout2050 Says:

    Hmmmm… Let’s see. GT5’s been in production for multiple years. Forza 3’s been in production for 2 years. Forza 3’s gonna release October 27, *2009* GT5’s gon’ release hmmmm… Hell, only Polyphony knows. I’ve got to admit GT5 looks amazing. But it’s GT-fricken-FIVE. Forza Motorsport 3 isn’t completely up to par with GT5 visually but it looks amazing as well. peace

  62. Kishen Patel Says:

    @SleepyG

    First of all, this site isn’t affiliated with Gran Turismo… Why would we want to skew the votes for GT on a poll for a different site? Obviously we’re only in the interest for this site. Where in the post did we influence the votes of a reader? The post even asks whether you think this is a fair practice or not. If you think it’s fair, then say that. But to bash the article and accuse the writers of negatively influencing the readers is not only uncalled for but irrelevant since the post isn’t trying to influence anyone in anyway.

  63. Sleepyg Says:

    @Kishen Patel

    I’m not saying it’s directly influencing. It’s nonchalant, reverse psychology. You’re pissing off the fanboys, and in turn, they are going out in droves to vote for GT5. The site is basically raising awareness the same way Take 10 did, but PSL is doing it in a negative way.

  64. xobi Says:

    @sleepyg

    nice point of view. i am a PS fan but i didnt vote and i am sure many others didnt. None of my PS3 owning-friends did.
    Call it a promotional marketing strategy, but what Turn 10 did is make everyone vote. You give anything free and people will run after it. Thats a basic marketing tool. But what you fail to understand (no offense) is that the effect the poll will have. If and only if the vote went Forza’s way, it would be splashed all over the net starting from N4g. So call it a bribe, or marketing strategy, its effect would be long term which in my opinion goes as a bribe.

    For the record, I am no fanboy, I am a gamer. I just love games. I have a ps3 but i play COD 4 on a pc. I love gears of war, but not Halo. But i will give you this that as far as value and not screwing the customer stands, SONY is much better than Microsoft.
    Oh did i mention i do own a 360 as well and play wii at my friends place.

  65. name Says:

    if you hate it so much why are you here?

  66. xobi Says:

    If i hate what so much. This is a playstation site.

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  68. mugatu1012 Says:

    this isnt shocking to me at all in fact money is the only reason why theres even an xbox360 out in the market, microsoft goes around buying there way through its how they’ve always done and they will continue to do it because they know if they werent so damn rich sony would of ate them alive along time ago. forza can have all the options in the but the truth is that it feels more like project gotham(arcade) than gt(racing simulator) there will never be a better racing simulator Gran Turismo is king!

  69. torence Says:

    ahahaha this is incredible…good article.
    Well, they lost 1 sold copy of the game….i really cannot accept this kind of acts from developers.

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    This poll has only confirmed one obvious fact: THE XBOX 360 IS MADE FOR LOSERS BY LOSERS!

    END OF STORY!

  72. megs1120 Says:

    It’s obnoxious, but they’re both exclusives. PS3 people will buy GT5, 360 people will buy Forza 3. I don’t see the big deal.

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  75. BigWoopMagazine Says:

    well… hey, if you can get the free car… vote and get your freebie. Then go buy GT5 anyways. The true test of which is better is the sales records when the games release. End of story.

  76. TheTenth Says:

    so what? Microsoft’s been bribing game developers and reviewers for years and noone complains

  77. UberSilenus Says:

    So the only competition that GT5 now has is Shift? A sleeper with half the tracks and a tenth of the cars? Makes one glad that ‘driver experience’ might keep Polyphony on their toes.

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