Sony Flame Baiting is so 2007
The prestigious
Bobby Kotick’s recent comments about supporting PS3.
“They [Sony] have to cut the price, because if they don’t, the attach rates are likely to slow. If we are being realistic, we might have to stop supporting Sony.”
- Bobby Kotick Activision CEO
So this alleged multi-platform site justifies Activision’s arrogance at the same time that it reinforces a near ancient notion that Sony is arrogant? Furthermore 2008 was a great year for PlayStation and Activision. According to Kotaku, PS3 and PS2 was second only to World of Warcraft and in total accounted for over 40% of Activision’s home console revenue.
“Let’s get one thing clear right now — Sony needs Activision more than Activision needs Sony. Activision makes a metric fuck-ton of money on the Wii, PC, Xbox 360 and DS. It could halt production of all PS3 games today and still be rolling in money tomorrow.”
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Activision would be ill prepared to board up their windows in what would surely be a huge PlayStation fan backlash. At the end of the day it was just noise and rhetoric. While Activision can certainly still make money without Sony, there is always more money to be made if there is another platform available. Just ask EA about this strategy. Activision would release Modern Warfare 2 for toaster ovens if they had a developer API.
Sony is well aware they have the highest priced console on the market, and all indications point to a cheaper PS3 being made available before Christmas. Yet somehow I doubt even a price drop will shut Sterling up.
Why is it that no one has any constant drum beating about Microsoft’s audacity when they released the Xbox 360 too early? Where are the pitchforks and torches when referring to Microsoft’s three or four year product lifespans? Oh, that’s right, Xbox 360 owners are all too eager to line up at the post office to ship their consoles in for a “hardware refresh” every 6 to 18 months.
News flash – Sony has already delivered on a 10 year lifespan. The PS One was on store shelves well after PS3 was released (11 years later). The PlayStation 2 is still going strong in it’s ninth year with over 65 games coming to the aging platform this year. Compare this with the complete lack of support for Xbox shortly after the 360 was released.
Was Sony being autocratic to drop UMD from the PSPgo? Is it pompous of Sony to deliver a reliable, fully functional gaming network completely free of charge?
Sony is a large entity, and large entities who make missteps quickly reorganize and rectify those mistakes. Considering everyone was ready to put a fork into the PS3 a year after its release, it’s not a stretch to call the PS3 an accomplishment at this point.
If Destructoid keeps up this flame bait they might as well rename themselves to SelfDestructoid.
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July 14th, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Wow! EPIC!
July 14th, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Activision just shut up.
July 14th, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Great article. The saddest thing about the corporate and journal Sony bashing is that it trickles down to “gamers” too, and then we have to read the same excrement everywhere on the net. It’s beyond beating a dead horse at this point.
July 14th, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Great article, keep em coming Mr. Allen
July 14th, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Yeah, Destructoid is pretty biased and uninteresting mostly.
It seems a lot of people just jumped on some sort of Anti-PlayStation bandwagon, and made sure they were on the 360 bandwagon.
It’s just old and childish honestly, and I don’t know how you can call a console great with only 5 real exclusives ever noted, and they’ll have 8 RRoD’s and still go “360 is best, online is everything, WE’VE GOT ALL THE GREAT EXCLUSIVES!”… I just don’t understand where all these 360 fanboys came from >.>
I love the PS3, and I think it’s the best console currently out, but I’ve never gone around any XBOX forums or anyone who likes XBOX saying it’s the best they always say it is after you say you have a PS3. Reminds me of Microsoft executives, they must say it’s the best over and over again until you believe it or something. XD
Oh, and we all know Sony doesn’t need Activision.
July 14th, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Where the hell were you shopping in 2007 the still had PSones? Games stopped coming out in 2005, it was dead way before PS3.
The article was all truth. Anybody that says Sony doesn’t need Activision is full of shit, that’s akin to saying the Dreamcast didn’t need EA.
July 14th, 2009 at 4:14 PM
SelfDestructoid, that was great. Ive never taken that site seriously at all in anything. Their best stuff is How___ is blatantly better than ____ and besides that i read nothing else. Fanboy land as far as i know.
July 14th, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Look, no console is perfect. To cheer for one specifically only hurts the consumer in the end. You think that by wishing the PS3 dead that MS would pay to fix your console and extend the warranty? Answer: Hell no. Also, by cheering Sony exclusively, you think they would have dropped the price from $600? Answer: Hell no.
I stopped going to Destructoid because I found that their opinions cannot be trusted. Its completely ok to be a tough critic, but be tough on everyone. You can’t use Activision calling out Sony as an argument to back up your statements, when Activion tries to cram down new devices that cost as much as consoles themselves. They want a fucking price drop because they want to push their hardware on people. At that point, thats just them being greedy pricks.
I wouldn’t listen to anything that comes out of J. Sterling keyboard. There is such a thing as constructive criticism, but this just comes off as ranting fanboy.
July 14th, 2009 at 4:36 PM
oh snap!
July 14th, 2009 at 4:54 PM
This article is just plain unprofessional and in horrible taste. First off this is a Playstation site, for you to come out against another journalists opinion like this puts a serious strain on your credibility.
EVERYTHING written in the Destructoid article was either truth or damn close to it, it was also based on facts. What you have written here is an emotional outburst of retaliation because someone said mean things about your favorite toy, aka a tantrum.
Sony deserves nearly all the criticism it gets, they are STILL arrogant and their pricing on recent products and recent statements prove this. We cannot keep making excuses for them and saying its just good ole Sony when they screw over consumers. PS3 should have been better than 360 in every way at launch, not only did they have 360 to look to as a benchmark of what to exceed, but they had more time to do it better than the MS console. Instead we got a overpriced console that to this day is still missing basic features the cheaper 360 has had since launch. The only way PS3 gets better is if we demand it. I don’t expect that from this site because its a shill site for the PS3, however that also means you don’t get to complain when someone else points out the flaws at Sony and with the console itself.
Now pull yourself together, your making fools out of this site and PS3 fans around the world.
07/14/2009 at 5:51 PM
Darkie wrote – EVERYTHING written in the Destructoid article was either truth or damn close to it, it was also based on facts.
Yea, and EVERYTHING written in Destructoids article happen in the 2006-2007 time frame. Read the article and quite flaming.
July 14th, 2009 at 5:11 PM
I’m sorry, but this article is great. Darkie, I have no idea what you are doing, this article was not a tantrum nor a retaliation. It was to show that bashing the Sony and the PS3 is an old thing to do now. I also cannot see how you can still call the PS3 an “overpriced” system, when clearly it’s not. The fact that you bring that up is plain moronic, when clearly the system itself is worth however much you put down for it.
The article in itself is not unprofessional, and not in horrible taste, at all. I don’t understand how it puts strain on our credibility, when we are a PlayStation website, and therefore we should defend the platform we support. Clearly, this article has got you in a fuss.
July 14th, 2009 at 5:20 PM
@Darkie
I’m curious, which basic features is the PS3 missing that the 360 already has? I’ll give you that the 360 probably has a more robust online feature but that console is also far from perfect. I’ve sent mine in twice already. So we know MS isn’t free of criticism.
Also, you say Sterling’s article is based on facts. Probably so, and I understand that Sony (even if they do indeed lose money) needs to drop the price of their console soon. But to use an Activision quote is plain stupid. “SEE, I’m right because Activision AGREES”. Uh, no. What Activision is seeking is for the consumer to think they can afford their stupid hardware because Sony/MS console is so cheap, making it easier for the consumer to buy their crap as well. They want it cheaper so it benefits them, not the damn consumer.
I don’t always agree with every article PS Lifestyle writes, but they write about my favorite console and are constantly giving me updates that I like. I agree with what you say, tough love is the best way to go because I feel it pushes our favorite companies to further enhance our favorite console of choice. I’m not gonna sit here and kiss Sony’s ass, because I’ve been waiting for gamercards since the world began and they still haven’t delivered on that. As I said, no console is perfect.
July 14th, 2009 at 5:27 PM
This is what I hate about a lot of the video game media. They say lots of stuff without really putting it into context. All the incidents that the Jim made didn’t keep 22 million people from buying a PS3. He should be focused on the games and not on system sells. Let’s just be honest. The PS3, 360, and Wii aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. A friend of mine who works at a Best Buy only on Sunday’s says that he has to prep at least 5 360’s to be sent back to MS every Sunday. Yet this guy is complaining about what Kaz Hirai said said 4 years ago! This guy references Kotick yet he doesn’t reference EA, Take-Two(apparently doing an exclusive game or 2 on the PS3), or any other big developer that has spoken the exact opposite of Kotick. If you have a PS3 then you should be telling people to buy one. Not the other way around. He should be concerned with the great games that are only available on and coming to the PS3. Killzone 2, Uncharted 1 & 2, MGS4, Resistance, 1 & 2, MotorStorm Pacific Rift, etc. He should be talking about how the PS3 is actually giving you true next gen games both Graphically and Technically and how you probably won’t see them on the 360. Show me something that compares both graphically and technically to Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 on the 360. Yet this guy is using his voice to promote the ridiculous. MS purposly sold people faulty consoles and continues to do so and there are actual internal emails/reports and confirmations of this yet this guy is upset with the PR dept. Every reporter on Joystiq, Kotaku, IGN, 1UP, and Gamespot have had their 360 die at least once. This guy needs to get out of here.
July 14th, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Well I dont agree. The first thing rational people are going to think when they read this is, “well what do you expect the PS3 website to say, ofcoarse they are going to defend Sony.” When people look at the site as just another PS3 defending Sony can do no wrong website, they question pretty much everything else that has ever been written here. That is what I call a loss of credibility.
I was referring to the price of PS3 at launch when I said overpriced, and since when does a company get the luxury of only being bashed for a limited time only? So we should never say anything negative about a company for more than a year? If that’s the case whats up with Microsoft, people have been hating on them since the Anti trust cases of the 90s? How come the RROD bashing never gets old?
A companies shortcomings should be pointed out until they are fixed, at least when those short comings are affecting its customers they should.
07/14/2009 at 5:54 PM
RROD bashing doesn’t get old because 30-40% of the X360’s still fail…even the newest revisions. Look it up if you are so blinded to believe such a fact.
Richard Allen says07/15/2009 at 12:35 AM
I don’t think I rebutted the D-Toid article with anything less then factual information. Just because the source is a PlayStation ONLY site doesn’t mean the article has no credibility.
The original author is trying to use information from 2006 and 2007 just to rile people up.
July 14th, 2009 at 5:39 PM
How ridiculous a man can get. Jim is probably bashing Sony because he hates the fact
that the PS3 has great games and he can not play them on Xbox 360. This is what fanboyism is all about.
July 14th, 2009 at 5:44 PM
@ Darkie
This guy doesn’t have any hard facts to back up anything he says. Where are the internal reports? He didn’t include anything from any financial reports or anything from the actual Sony press/shareholder/board meetings and conferences where they talk about actual sales. Up until Feb/March 2009 the PS3 sold 22 million consoles. The 360 has sold 30 million. The 360 sold 4.7 million consoles during the year before the PS3 launched. If you take out the early year you get 25.3 million sold excluding the 360’s year lead. 30-4.7 = 25 That means that from when the PS3 launched the 360 sold 25.3 million units and the PS3 has sold 22 million excluding the 360’s year lead. This info can be found on the net and it puts everything in a different perspective and context. The 360 had a year lead so its supposed to be leading the PS3. Let’s just be honest. The vast majority of the folks who buy game consoles don’t know who Kaz Hirai is or who any of the other executive are. Their stupid comments shouldn’t keep you from getting a PS3. If so Alan Greensburg and Shane Kim should’ve keep people from getting a 360 with some of theirs regarding the RROD error and the E74 error.
July 14th, 2009 at 5:47 PM
@TimPV3
Activision’s games sell PS3’s? When?
That’s like saying EA’s games sell 360’s and PS3’s, and EA is a developer for both consoles.
I never said it wouldn’t hurt both Sony and Activision, because it would hurt both company’s, but do they need each other? Not at all, they can both make it without another. You’d only see an increase in 360 sales to the people whom had to have these Activision games.
Activision would be stupid to drop the PS3, and we know they won’t.
@Darkie
We’re missing, cross-game voice chat…And that’s being worked on.
And who complain’s about RRoD on sites anymore? If anything is talked down on it’s the PS3.
And Sony has added a lot to the PS3 in the past 2 years, if the console costs too much you can either wait till it’s less or just be sure you want it when you buy it.
And why is it unprofessional to speak against someone speaking against something?
Activision never made a great point(from what I know), they just go “DROP PRICE OR WE DROP YOU!” *gives look to Sony while shaking fist*
And Jim Sterling never explained anything, he just said something and that was it
I can say EA is a Company making great games and none suck, but that’s not true.
The fact is both companies would be fine without the other, but they would also both suffer some from this, but considering all the other developers and first party developers we’ll know they won’t drop them.
And everyone knows a price-cut is inevitable, but everyone doesn’t know this thing called patience.
Since when did defending something become a bad thing? 360 fanboys do it all the time and stick up for RRoD, they’re defending nothing along the lines are they?
No one said Sony doesn’t do some things wrong, but attacking Sony when they’re doing things right(and fixing stuff) is just ignorant, and the price point is a horrible argument.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:07 PM
I see the points you guys are making, but I just feel that it is good to let these big corporations know what we expect. You are not hurting Sony when you demand the best from them, why people get so hurt when Sony is criticized I will never understand, most 360 fans could care less what you say about Microsoft, no one likes Microsoft, but that is why they try so hard, they will do whatever it takes to try and get their customers everything they can, because they want to be the console everybody loves and wants. Sony already thinks everybody loves and wants them, so what is their motivation?
Also I never said anything was wrong with still bashing MS for RROD, I just pointed out that the bashing was still happening, as it should be until every last RROD console has been fixed.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Nail on the head Darkie. Tough love and competition is good for us me thinks.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:14 PM
@ Darkie
I see more of what you mean, and I think we should tell Sony what we expect of them so on and so forth, but these guys are going beyond criticizing and just bashing in the end really.
Tecmo said a price drop would be nice, but never demanded one, and they even stated the reasons why they did obvious or not.
The only reason Sony is not really wanting a price drop is because they want to make a profit form the PS3, they’re a company of course they want to make a profit, and I know a lot of us would like to see the PlayStation stick around so yeah.
I don’t think Sony never makes faults but, these people are going about them the wrong way and it’s almost like they want the fanboys on both sides to go wild. It’s not that we care what people say about PS3, it’s just tiresome getting this crap shoved down your throat really.
But I do respect your opinion and see what you mean.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:20 PM
oh snap, good article, Destructoid sucks for me, Sony bashing is getting old already…oh well back to playing inFamous xD
July 14th, 2009 at 6:23 PM
@ Darkie
Okay tough love is good to point out what needs to be fixed or changed…but the fact of the matter is SONY has fixed/changed everything it has needed to for the PS3 with the exception of a price drop. PS3 has no games! — This year alone there will be more exclusives released on the PS3 than the 360 will have this year. PSN Doesn’t compare to my $50 LIVE! — PSN is on par if not better than LIVE in its connection, the downloads could use a dedicated server…but all will come in time. PSN doesn’t have cross-game chat / I can’t leave a voice message! — SONY is working on it…as far as voice messages go, there is a sweet new thing called VOICEMAIL. Those are the most complained about things that I hear come out of fanboy’s mouths. The price will come down in due time…SONY is losing BILLIONS right now and are trying to get their games division in the green. You should think about where LIVE was at with the original XBOX and think of where SONY is with PSN…SONY has surpassed the original in every way possible and I am positive that once the next-gen rolls around, or very possibly even in this gen, SONY will have the most robust online experience on any console.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:32 PM
@ Darkie
your statement sounds like this:
“NOOOOOOOOOO XBOOOOXXX 360 ISSS SOOOOOOOO MUUUUCCCHHH BEEEETTTTTERRRR FUUUCCCKKK PLAAYSTATIONNN THREEE!
Sorry, man, you come across like a fanboy pulling crap like that. If you own a PS3 it doesn’t take a genius to see they are equal, except for the chat option and PS3 killing the 360 with exclusives. I could sit here and break down the value of the system, price and what you get out of the box. But im sure your aware..
Are your incapable of understanding the meanings of this article? Its Okay for other sites to post random garbage expressing there opinion even when it plays like a broken record? All three systems have their ups and downs, and each one does what it was designed to do quite well. The article is well written and has ALOT OF FACTS. Any site you go to there are multiple writers calling each other out. Why should it be any different here? Do i need to point out how good ole Microsoft screw’s over there consumers? what basic features is the PS3 missing? voice chat? party chat? which is essentially the same software. Netflix streaming? We have our own video store incase you didn’t notice. Xbox LIVE has a lag its far from perfect. Im not writing an article in an article but your statement is delusional. Especially this:
Now pull yourself together, your making fools out of this site and PS3 fans around the world..
Speak for yourself………. having the right of freedom of speech means that ANYONE can voice there opinion wherever and whenever they feel the urge to even Written. if a person has a valid point or even an unvalid one NOTHING should stand in their path. clearly this article just flew over your head.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:47 PM
@shadowjin
rotfl…
July 14th, 2009 at 6:50 PM
@Darkie
It is good to let the companies know how you feel and what you want but at the same time we as gamers need to be reasonable. Jim took the Ridge Racer comment out of context. Sony was showing that you could play PS1 games on your PSP and they used Ridge Racer as an example. Jim’s comment wouldn’t lead you to believe that that is what Sony was doing. Kaz Hurai’s comment was taken a little out of context. When you read the whole statement and factor in the fact that he’s Japanese it puts it into a little more context. He doesn’t show any actual numbers, charts, or figures to support his rants. Let’s look at Gears of War 2. It would take upwards of 45 minutes sometimes before you could get a multiplayer match going. Not including the other bugs that were in the game yet you didn’t hear lots of complaints about it. At the same time people who own a PS3 find it important to complain about a price drop when they ALREADY own the system!
More sales of the PS3 aren’t going to make someone enjoy Killzone 2 or inFamous more. None of the things Jim rants on are going to make anyone enjoy any of the games on the PS3 more. If the PS3 magically jumped in the lead that’s not going to mean Uncharted 2 is going to be better. Gamers need to be more concerned with the games and the features rather than sales. Sony said they had a 10 year plan for the PS2. Why is no one upset with that?
July 14th, 2009 at 7:13 PM
this is a pure and beutifull
July 14th, 2009 at 7:30 PM
i like.. good points all around
July 14th, 2009 at 7:31 PM
this is an outstanding article. thank you.
July 14th, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Article was good and no point. The comments have been informative also, but flaming will not make you anymore intelligent to those that have a different attitude about the PS3.
There is something to remember that Sony dropped the price last year from $499 to $399 and doubled the HDD size at the same time so they have dropped the price recently. And it was not more than a few weeks later that M$ dropped the price of the Arcade version of the 360, remember the Arcade did not come with a HDD, then M$ upgraded to the NXE and made it difficult to get online with the Arcade with out needing a HDD, they had lots of refurbed 20GB drives sitting in warehouses so the sold them for $20, so that made the entry level 360 at least $319. This is how M$ does things to get more money out of a loss.
Also I wonder how many of those sales figures from M$ include replacements for RRoD, they have been known for fudging the numbers before. When they claimed that Windows was the best selling OS in the 90’s they included PC’s that were still sitting in warehouses but not sold at retail since they considered an OS sale when the vendor installed the OS on the hardware not when the customer purchased it… So SPINNING is common with M$ numbers…
M$ rushed their console to market since they were also looking at Patent rights rulings so they rushed it out so that they could get the patents validated so that prior use could not be invoked on a console basis with in-game chat and music streaming…
July 14th, 2009 at 8:33 PM
@ SPD55
depends on what you consider “flaming”. completely oblivious …? you should read from start to finish.
July 14th, 2009 at 9:37 PM
A good number of Jim’s arguments are based on articles that you typically find on most gaming sites. Instead of focusing on games, the writers pull in some random quote from someone else’s interview with a company exec. They quote a line or two and post it, and some other site sources them. While nothing is inherently wrong with this..its the fact that they take the line out of context, then attempt to interpret the person’s lines for the reader.
David Reeves, Kaz Hirai, Jack Tretton, Shane Kim, Aaron Greenburg, Shane Kim are ALL victims in that respect. Not saying they’re innocent all the time, but there are a good number of lines that have been taken out of context. you can find some in Jim’s argument.
This isn’t to pick on Darkie, but the overwhelming majority of gamers don’t know the industry, don’t know the process of hardware/software design, don’t know how to read financial reports, or understand the company/consumer relationship. They also have an aversion to research outside of purchasing decisions. They recognize the potential of a product (PS3), identify a feature available on a competitive product (360), that if available might improve the experience of their own purchase. While this is healthy, their lack of knowledge of the industry results in ridiculous statements, assumptions, and emotions….
“Sony is arrogant, this should have been here. I want it, its not here when I want it, therefore Sony is arrogant and thinks it doesn’t need to listen to me. I want , I see Home over there, why is Home here and not my feature!” – there are 1000s of Sony employees working on things concurrently. Much like the phone staff wouldn’t be expected to run the engineering dept, so it is that Home devs or Naughty Dog are not responsible for XMB
“Sony is trying to force me to pay $600. I don’t want to pay $600, therefore Sony is trying to rip me off. They are arrogant, they think they can charge me anything.” – Sony offers a product, buy it or not. An offer is not a demand.
“Manufacturers sell their consoles at a loss, and make profit on the software. Everyone knows that. Its that simple.” there’s so much assumption, over-simplification of that, its astounding.
“Sony is last place sales-wise. The competition must have a better experience” – Sales =/= Quality
The reputation of these companies exist among the hardcore…actually the subset of the hardcore who actually follow blogs and websites. Even among them, exec’s words have no influence as to whether they purchase a product or not. Jim is more annoyed than anything. Gamers also have short memories and are very fickle. Combine that with the lack of knowledge and its easy to develop a reputation rather quickly (see Valve, see Starcraft 2). Name a company that goes out of its way to explain its business strategy (financial reports, outlooks, etc) to consumers who have no idea of the history, implementation, trends, and boundaries of that company, let alone the industry. I mean what do they expect? How much time would it take to educate them on that? Some exec’s have even attempted to, and been met with ridicule. Listen to bl400…focus on the games.
07/15/2009 at 9:59 AM
*golf clap*
July 14th, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Destructoid is a bunch of biased twats, they can’t write a bloody article without sacrificing some of their fanboy blood to their anti-Sony deity.
July 14th, 2009 at 10:41 PM
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July 15th, 2009 at 1:42 AM
Well written Rich… It seems to me that beating up Sony is the new fun thing to do with jag offs (whether they support Xbox or not) like this guy. Microsoft has as bad a reputation for making shit as Sony does for supporting new hardware that doesn’t take off (mini disk, betamax…etc)
But while Microsoft has made it money by monopolizing the fields they work in (who really uses Linix?) Sony has made their money in making quality products and keeping a faithful following of users.
this is not an opinion… this is history.
Xbox vs PS3 aside, a price cut may raise the sale of the PS3, but it will also be giving in to idol threats from the asses at Activision, who in my opinion can go screw. they (not unlike) Microsoft, were once a huge company, who only seem to be able to flood the market with shitty copies of software they didn’t invent in the first place. Can they continue to profit without PS3? maybe, but I for one am willing to find out how profitable they would be.
The Wii is only popular because of the sports game and (maybe) the Mario games
Xbox is only popular because its been around longer and looks cheaper on the price tag
neither of the two are actually better than the PS3 and that is easily proven. I’d pay more for quality any day.
BTW, 3 years with my PS3 and still no RROD = victory
July 15th, 2009 at 3:15 AM
Jim sterling needs to SHUT THE FUCK UP!
My PS3 cost me 400 3 years ago. Why? because I know how to bargain hunt. 60GB Backwards Compatible. It’s not a 60GB anymore. I tossed an over priced 320GB hard drive into that baby from best buy and STILL came out 60 dollars cheaper than a 120GB 360 hard drive.
I had a blu-ray player back when they were 600 fucking dollars. I had a media center, and if I had bought a 360 instead I would have spent anywhere from 90-120 extra dollars on the fucking online ALONE! By the end of a 10 year life cycle that’s 300-500 dollars. AND THE PS3 IS TOO EXPENSIVE?!?!?!?!?!
Plus most of the best 360 games either come to PS3, PC or BOTH. Ya the PS3 isn’t always the best version but it’s usually close enough or better.
My PS Eye is superior to the 360 camera (not the natal but the old P.O.S) but I can also use ANY regular USB camera for things like vid chat.
Furthermore Sony doesn’t make money on most things. Headsets for example are universally useable on PCs, mobile phones, and even the PSP GO! when it’s released. Everyone should have a blue-tooth, a PSEye Camera, or at the very freakin least a 20 dollar wired headset. It’s not so much to ask that people have FREEDOM OF CHOICE! It’s not expensive at all. I have talked to someone on his 10 dollar bluetooth headset. If you want to voice chat IT’S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE Geez!
My PS3 works just fine and I’ve left it on numerous nights consectively. I’ve known people that left their PS3 on for MONTHS at a time.
My sexy black box is the best thing I’ve ever spent money on (well PC is arguably the best but I paid 2 times as much for it) I’ve never had to send in my PS3, I’ve never had a kink with it that wasn’t fixed later on in a firmware update. Even Wiis had a recall where some Wiis wouldn’t read Super Smash Brothers Brawl.
I was going to send this cock a P.M. with all this valuable information that he CONVENIENTLY left out, but I couldn’t figure out how to. This guy needs to lose his fucking job. Seriously. Someone find out where to email and send him the link to this article. This guy is nothing but another damn creationist who thinks that Evolution is wack just because he doesn’t think deeply enough to really understand the shit he criticizes. That’s a metaphor by the way in case Jim Sterling rode the short bus over to this thread and happens to be reading it.
I’ve been asking people for years what games a 360 is worth getting in order to play. 85 percent of the games they mention are coming or are already on the PS3 or PC so fuck that. I have a Wii I have a PC I have a PS3… PCii3 fo life yo!
July 15th, 2009 at 10:07 AM
I think criticism is good and don’t think we’re being fanboys. Sony PR needs to watch what they say sometimes, yes, but so do gaming sites. People do gather a lot of information from there and I would be destructoid shows up above us.playstation.com press releases from search engines. So it’s important to have articles pointing out the positives as well. It’s much easier to criticize historical moves than to praise how far something’s come and put faith in a direction something is headed (i.e., the hindsight’s 20-20, or in my case, 20-10).
Darkie brought up some good counter-points, as did LazyGamer’s article by Nick. I hope discussion like this doesn’t turn people away from the site. It’s a chance to let everyone speak on something that the staff on this site care deeply about. Really interesting stuff all around!
July 15th, 2009 at 10:15 AM
JIM STERLING HATES THE PS3 AND DOESN’T EVEN HAVE A PSN ID: http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/profile.phtml?un=Jim%20Sterling
haha ok I was just flame-baiting there… lol
07/15/2009 at 11:18 AM
Haha, you do have a point. =)
July 15th, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Cute opinion article, but not surprising coming from an author who writes for a site that’s called “PlayStation” LifeStyle. Jim’s article was written as an editorial, as an opinion, which happens to be a view that many people in the industry (and gamers) agree with. You don’t have to, and that’s fine.
But focusing on one story in which you claim “bashes” Sony to conclude that our site is biased towards any one console ignores the other work that we do daily. We’re supportive and sometimes critical of all platforms; we have an informed and sometimes highly-opinionated staff. This applies to all publishers, platforms, etc.
Take the blinders off for a second and stop being so defensive. You’re not doing yourself any favors here by calling out an entire Web site based off the work one opinion article by one of 10+ plus authors.
07/15/2009 at 1:11 PM
hey it’s nickchester from destructoid!
I’m with you and know you have many authors. We also have many authors so don’t call out our entire website either!
It seemed like a lot of the 190+ commenters in Jim’s article disagreed with it as well. So as a controversial editorial, I won’t speak for Rich but I think he was trying to chime in with his opinion as well. You’ll see that LazyGamer chimed in disagreeing with us. It’s less about Jim Sterling and more about the continued “We know better than Sony” attitude a lot of folks have, and revisionist advice given. I think Sony would do some things over again if they could, but instead of bashing what they can’t change, I think we should get excited and provide direction and coverage for the future.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:01 PM
@Nickchester
The original author is using information from 2006-2007 just to rile people up.
(Jim Sterling) Judging from the comments in that “article” Everyones under the impression its “new news”. Your site is very Bias, its well know, also there is never anything written positive towards the PS3. In case you failed to see the article wasn’t towards your site, it was the (article) who the writer has made it clear he dislikes the PS3. Which is fine. It is Bashing because its OLD NEWS made to LOOK NEW. Say i write an article about the 360, than add information thats old and re-enforce it with a new comment (Activisions)…. what do i get?
there was no time frame put on that video clip,. People who are ignorant will see it and think “its new”. Jim’s comment wouldn’t lead you to believe that that is the direction Sony was heading in. Also, its not listed as an editorial but under Destructoid Exclusive! You might as well drop a NEWS FLASH while your at it. You said it yourself its an opinion.
Nickchester says: Take the blinders off for a second and stop being so defensive. same can be said about you. Yet, i do see your point of view…. except, you fail to see Richards.
And btw ..I am not associated with Playstation Lifestyle……… just a regular commenter.
July 15th, 2009 at 1:17 PM
@ nickchester
That was a typo, my mistake.. there was a time frame in that clip but why use old news?
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