Comments on: [UPDATE] Why Free PS2 Compatibility Won’t Happen

By: PlayStation LifeStyle » God of War Series Resurrected in Under 3 Months

PlayStation LifeStyle » God of War Series Resurrected in Under 3 Months — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:08:10 +0000

[...] Backward compatibility has been an issue that both Sony and the PlayStation 3 have faced since the console’s inception. However, when the God of War Collection was announced for the PlayStation 3, many saw it as the emergence of a solution to the problem. What may surprise some is the low cost of such a solution. The mere concept of PlayStation 2 titles remastered on the PlayStation 3 with additional content has given rise to some great possibilities. Coupled with the potential is that fact that according to Santa Monica Studio’s very own director of product development, John Hight, the development time was surprisingly short and successful. “It [development] lasted 15 weeks and we went into manufacturing 2 days ahead of schedule with no issues.” [...]

By: yellowdart46

yellowdart46 — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:26:02 +0000

@DGR8Mc187

I agree. I love mine too.

By: Old_Snake_

Old_Snake_ — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:57:01 +0000

Ken Kutaragi always saying: That the supporting of the games from previous generations of Play Station is the main priority for Sony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where B\C??????????

By: Bradlyford

Bradlyford — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:32:36 +0000

On the issue of them taking BC out of the later model PS3:
I agree that BC probably never should have been implemented if it was only going to be scraped in later models, but it was said in the article that the hardware BC was up to 95% of all PS2 games before they decided to drop it in later revisions.
What I don’t understand is if it already has a 95% compatibility why take the chips out? Even if Sony was unable to get the other 5% of games to work they could have left the chips in and sold it as compatibility with almost every PS2 game. We are talking about a game catalog with 1500+ games, 95% is a giant success.

When the PS2 came out I had a PS1, DVD player, SNES, and a TV that only had two AV-INs. I bought the PS2 because I could then clear my room of both my PS1 and DVD player. This made it so I no longer had to reach behind my TV and unplug my PS1 every time I wanted to play my SNES.
The same situation hinders me now with a 360, PS3, TiVo, Satellite, GameCube, and PS2. I again don’t have room for the PS2, but because I was unaware Sony was going to put the axe to BC I have to unplug my GameCube (Which I DO still use) to play my PS2. It is annoying and when the PS3 came out seemed like it wouldn’t be needed once I had money to get a PS3, but who could have foreseen Sony back-tracking on the backwards compatibility.
I know a lot of people will read this and say I’m just being lazy and to deal with it. But you have to realize the whole point of BC was to consolidate systems and the ease of having two systems in one…and to boost sales.

And for the issue of PS2 games for sale on the PSN
I realize the PS2 era is coming to an end and will stop being sold as a self sustained system. I think it is a great idea for them to continue the PS2 games being sold on the PSN, but once my third PS2 finally bites the dust I don’t want to have to pay $20 to play GTA 3 because I wanted fly the Dodo around for an hour. I would however be fine with sticking the GTA 3 DVD into my PS3 let PSN read the disk, verify it is a legal copy and then let me download the game I already paid full price for when it came out.
That being said I “feel this would simply be a carefully staged ripoff on Sony’s part.”

By: DGR8Mc187

DGR8Mc187 — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:36:22 +0000

You pay for what you get I love my Launch 60. Enough said.

By: bl400

bl400 — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:41:22 +0000

The vast majority of people don’t buy a PS3 to play PS2 games. Sony released a press release about this. I think having them on the store is more viable. I understand having backwards compatibiliy in the beginning but being 3 years in its not necesary for the majority of people. The last PS2 game I played on my PS3 was GOW2. If you have a PS2 than use it. Look at it like this. If you have a PS2 and bought a 360 cuz the PS3 didn’t have B/C then you still won’t be able to play the PS2 games. Let’s be honest. If the choice is between Uncharted 2(PS3) and Grand Theft Auto(PS2) nobody on this board is going to choose GTA. Hook up the old PS2. It played them before and it will play them again.

By: Theosdaddy

Theosdaddy — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:37:43 +0000

I’ll be amazed if software emulation will work well enough for Sony to want to include it in a firmware update OR sell it as a stand-alone product… Playing Ratchet & Clank 2 on my (European) 60GB a couple of days ago, the frame rate was well below what it runs at on PS2- I had no choice but to put the disc in my PS2 (again, an original launch model which I have no intention of getting rid of) and enjoy the strangeness of a wired controller for the first time in ages… I’m guessing that was due to software GS emulation, but without a US or Japanese launch model to test it against I just don’t know…
Quite honestly, even PS1 emulation is a little laggy on my PS3: trying to play Vib Ribbon it becomes apparent that the timing is off, and Bust-a-Groove is entirely unplayable…(not that I get the urge to play it very often, but that’s not the point…)
So I’m with the official Sony stance that the PS3 should be focused on its OWN software base, since as powerful as it is, it’s obviously better just being itself rather than pretending to be it’s predecessors… My PS2 runs PS1 games perfectly, and I’m happy to have it sat next to my PS3 on the shelf above the TV… I’d rather Sony didn’t waste time and money on trying to make PS2 B/C work if the PS3 just won’t run it fast enough with just software…
Who knows, perhaps the PS4 will be fast enough to emulate the entire family… We can but hope… it might save me some space in my living room!

By: MakaiOokami

MakaiOokami — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:16:38 +0000

Well… All I have to say on the subject, is I wonder if the PSP, which is just as powerful (I think) and possibly slightly more powerful than a PS2, would be able to play these PS2 titles. That’s what makes the PS1 titles so popular. WIth the Go’s capacity it sure does leave enough room for some of those titles, but, at this stage it’s just speculation.

By: Old_Snake_

Old_Snake_ — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:24:02 +0000

very bad for Sony!! ((
my PS3 60GB (2006 november) ITS DEATH in june 2009 and i wait new Slim or PS3 writing all games from PS2, but SONY give castrated console!!!! this very bad for Sony!! i dont bay slim and fat PS3!! i dont nead castrated console, i wont normal console!!!!!!!!! Sony wont money again for old games selled from PSstore-its not good, beacose i dont wont again bay Metal Gear Solid-Silent Hill or more from store!!
way Sony seller 2 console!?? and give chose players!??
1 console: Writing games from ps1-2-3 and price-400-500$, and people have choise< bay or not bay!!
2 console: not writing game from ps1-2 and price 250$- and 300$ ( for what 300$- for castrated console????)
and we all players have a choise- BAY 1 or 2 console!! whay SONY Has made a choice for us!??
WHAAAYYYY!????????
my verdict!! i dont bay ps3, i play ps2 games, beacose only UNCHARTED 1-2 dont need for me on ps3!!!!!!!!!! i love games from my ps2!!!!!!!
p.s. sorry for bad english!!!!!!

By: funkyellowmonkey

funkyellowmonkey — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:50:22 +0000

You want BC says Sony, sure > pay for it! this will stop all the bickering, (wishful thinking!)

~funkyellowmonkey(ps3 id)~

By: kirobz

kirobz — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:57:44 +0000

That’s what I also though. If they don’t bring an emulation back, The games would be DL form PS store. PS2 got a massive library. Although most games that I would want to play again are RPG games, and Outlaw Volleyball (We just love it). And please dont sell it for more than $10. Most PS2 games are now less than $10.

By: ElectroBoy

ElectroBoy — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:51:18 +0000

before i even read it i knew what you were gonna say
sony love to adhere to their 10 year plan and having backwards compatability in the new console makes it much more difficult
but we’ve all seen the 10 year plan work with backwards compatability with the PS1

but with PS4 i think they have to have it if it still uses standard discs, im sure the new xbox console will and its a feature im use to and believe should be in every system that uses standard discs

By: fr0sty

fr0sty — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:12:21 +0000

just to clarify, Cpiasminc DID NOT post the bit in the beginning of our article that states that the ps2 emulator has been tested for over a year now and such.. that came from another inside source who remains unidentified (we have reported rumors from this source in the recent past that panned out to be true, however.) Once again, to spare the poor dude his job for something he never did to begin with, cpiasminc did NOT post that first part. He has been a staffer at our site for years, and does not leak info like that to us because of his rather public role on our site. it would be career suicide if he did, as he as a game developer. so, he only posts bits about the tech that goes into this stuff, but never posts anything he is not supposed to. All that comes from another unnamed source.

Dustin Rudzinski
Editor in Chief
PSInsider.com

By: giese095

giese095 — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:00:21 +0000

@ Twoje – then go out and buy a PS2, seems pretty simple to me if you’re willing to pay $100 for an emulator, just pay $100 for something you can have right now and know will work for every PS2 game. I however am not willing to pay $100 for BC and the only reason I feel ripped off by not having it is because my original PS3 which had BC was stolen from me and I had to buy a new one without. So I feel ripped off by the jack A$$ that stole mine, not by Sony. I never used it when I did have it, but knowing that I had it taken away from me makes me want to back..one of those things you take for granted when you have it.

By: Morgus

Morgus — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:34:37 +0000

i’d pay 20 bucks for a ps2 game on the psn

personally i’d like a disc copy feature for my ps1 games, but alas it’d never happen b/c of pirating issues