Dreamcast Returns on PlayStation 3

09/22/2009 Written by Sebastian Moss

Sega

The SEGA Dreamcast may likely go down in history as one of the most disappointing consoles. SEGA fans to this day salivate at the thought of a Dreamcast 2 or a next generation SEGA console. It’s likely that day will never come, but that doesn’t mean the catalog of Dreamcast games and SEGA PS2 games won’t go to waste.

SEGA recently accidentally spilled the beans on Sony’s plan to bring Dreamcast and PS2 games to the PlayStation Network. Some confidential notes regarding a meeting with Sony Computer Entertainment America have been making their way around the net. Apparently, Sony wants to release “all PS2 titles on PSN”, as well as bring Dreamcast games to PlayStation.

The confidential notes also reveal how these games would be marketed, with PS3 controllers shown in multiplatform TV ads. The publisher has been tasked with providing SCEA a list of Dreamcast titles from which they will choose which games they’re interested in having exclusively, adding “if we give them a long period of exclusivity they’ll give us more marketing support.”

Additionally, the dated document reveals Sony plans to sell 4-5 Million motion controllers World Wide, releasing the hardware in March in Japan and Spring elsewhere. SCEA will also provide a list of Sega IP’s “that would work well with the motion controller”, with Virtua Tennis being given as an example.

The link to this confidential information, which was on SEGA’s personal FTP, is now inactive, however the full SEGA and SCEA Meeting Notes can be read below:

SCEA Meeting Aug 5th Notes
Aug 6 2009 – DRAFT FOR COMMENTS

Objectives of Meeting

  • Dyer agreed to regular quarterly meetings with SOA

Sony PS3

  • SCEA reiterated plans to sell 13 million PS3s this year
  • Big announcement back half of year they can’t talk about (potentially price cut of PS3 to reach hardware goals)
  • SCEA commented on indexing between PS3 and 360 SKUs, should be around 2:1 to garner most favorable treatment.

Motion Controller

  • Spring 2010 launch (March in JP)
  • No bundle/pricing details yet, should come Sept 1
  • Plan on selling 4-5MM units WW
  • SCEA agreed to provide a list of Sega IP that would work well with the motion controller, Virtua Tennis was an example
  • Motion Controller support allows easy way to differentiate PS3 SKU
  • Other differentiation opportunities include PSP/PS3 interoperability – think of features that would make users want to buy both PS3 and PSP SKUs.

Alpha Protocol
Michael Foster, product evaluator, said AP felt barely RPG. Initial level too challenging for players. “Mass Effect felt more RPG.”
Review notes sent to John Merlino a few weeks prior. After meeting Gerald mentioned AP is a high priority for his team.

Planet 51

  • Sell in of PS3 SKU – SCEA noted that other movie titles on PS3 had underperformed as well (inc. Transformers) this cycle.
  • Dyer suggests contacting Susan at Walmart and asking what she wants in the pack to sell this SKU (movie tix etc)
  • Other possibilities are Hybrid movie disc (BD 25 or 50 with Game and Movie on same disc).

Bayonetta

  • Collectors edition with Bayonetta Action Figure
  • Novo recommended launching PSN demo around Xmas based off a Jan 5th Ship date with 2-3 week run out to launch.
  • 3-4 weeks is usually ideal demo timing with fresh content every week leading up to launch (trailers, insider video about PG heritage, video blogs).

Vancouver 2010

  • HOME, Olympic destination would garner a lot of positive attention from SCEA
  • Should be doing same with Bayonetta, Marvel etc. Easy to launch in all territories.
  • HOME merchandizing opportunities (clothes etc).

Sonic Racing

  • Open to DLC to differentiate PS3 SKU – not ratchet and clank but other characters
  • maybe characters from Rare or Fable universes

Yakuza

  • Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game).
  • Might need to localize menus at least with subtitles.
  • SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity.

AVP

  • Another great HOME candidate
  • AVP avatars
  • Hybrid BD disc with movie

Iron Man 2

  • Great candidate for HOME space – explore Tony Stark’s lab etc.
  • Should have one for Marvel in general.

PSU2

  • Could do bundle at GameStop with PSP 30-35K units on UMD, Go, or both.

Valkyria 1937

  • Could bundle with PSP as well.

Vanquish and Aliens: CM

  • Opportunity for PS3/PSP interoperability (see Eidos Batman, Army of Two, Assassin’s Creed for good examples).
  • If we offer that SCEA would be really interested in having us at their booth next E3.

Thor
SCEA would like a look at the code soon.

Sonic Anniversary

  • Could put out collectors edition with all old sonic games on one BD disc.
  • “Best of Sonic” for around $99.
  • SCEA would love PSN exclusive power ups/different game modes (like Castlevania’s flip it over/backwards)

PS2 emulator for PS3 (confidential)

  • SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN (GTA Vice City/Sonic/etc)
  • For co Marketing money show PS3 controller on TV ads – similar to EA Madden Spots, NCAA, etc…

London Olympics

  • Perfect opportunity for Motion Controller integration.

DC Digital Titles

  • If we provide a list of DC titles SCEA will let us know which ones they’re interested in having exclusively.
  • If we give them a long period of exclusivity they’ll give us more marketing support.

PSP Titles

  • For SKU differentiation it’s best to offer features that are slightly different from PS3 version.
  • Titles that are coming up on PSP are Assassin’s Creed II, GTA China Wars, Resident Evil, Little Big Planet – all massive franchises.
  • SCEA has a specific PSP deck which they can send up with their hardware director for a chat

[Source/Via] Thanks to Brent For the tip!

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23 Responses to “Dreamcast Returns on PlayStation 3”

  1. Hus90 Says:

    this…is…awesome…

  2. GunaK Says:

    Amazing!

  3. Robotron Says:

    Still a rumor and the Dreamcast was NOT “one of the most disappointing consoles” to me….it was one of the greatest and I’m sorry to the people who missed out (I still have mine).
    As for last gen it was my favorite console (yes it was one of the last gen consoles).

  4. TheHater Says:

    I will believe it when I see it

  5. VanilaGorila-x- Says:

    I’d love to se the SOCOM series in HD…

    Peace,
    VG

  6. wtGp Says:

    cats out of the bag now. l guess l can sell myy ps2 and games now since it will be PSn which is awesome

  7. smokey_vols Says:

    Power Stone 1&2, Skies of Arcadia, and Soinc Adventures please :)

  8. SolidCake_ Says:

    hard to say if any of that is true.

  9. giese095 Says:

    makes perfect sense to me:

    1. It explains the leaked patent for a PS2 software emulator for the PS3 that we heard about a while ago.

    2. It would shut a lot of people up about backwards compatability.

    3. It would make them more money.

  10. onionpaper Says:

    I agree with Robotron, the dreamcast was not disappointing, I think that you mean SEGA disappointed people when they announced they would no longer support their system. It housed some of the best games, as well as outstanding (for the time) graphics.

    I’m looking forward to Skies of Arcadia. And while they’re at it, might as well throw us a Skies of Arcadia 2!

  11. mrro82 Says:

    The Dreamcast was no where close to disappointing. If this is true I’ll take Test Drive: V-Rally, Toy Commander and Sonic Adventure please! =)

  12. killzonezero Says:

    no freaking way this is awsome me and some others on the form were talking just about this is freaking sweet!!!!!!! cant wait for this to happen and long live dreamcast!

  13. MakaiOokami Says:

    Mistyping.

    “That doesn’t mean that the titles won’t go to waste” that’s a double negative so they cancel each other out to mean. “That means the titles will go to waste” So you may want to fix that and take out 1 of the negative terms.

    Ok now to discuss good news. TROPHIES FOR SONIC ADVENTURE 1 & 2 POSSIBILITY? HOLY FUCK MOTHER FUCKER SHIT FUCK YES!

    Sorry for the abuse of explatives but there’s a time and a place, and it’s NOW!

    Powerstone with trophies and online? Skies of Arcadia with Trophies? Jet Grind Radio? I would so love to play Blue Stinger on my PS3 with trophy support as well. Man this is like a whole ton of dreams come true if this all happens. I will gladly rebuy all of those.

    Unfortunately nothing in that memo states dreamcast specifically.

  14. Mendax Says:

    @MakaiOokami
    “Unfortunately nothing in that memo states dreamcast specifically.”

    “DC Digital Titles” = DreamCast games sold through PSN

  15. Robotron Says:

    @MakaiOokami

    ok after reading that f-bomb rant I know you’ve seen the Boondock Saints….or at least you need to

  16. xST-ANGERx Says:

    @robotron and onionpaper

    the dreamcast was utter gash! the 32-bit playstation1 was more powerful and could do more things, so dont even try to convince me (us) that it was a great games machine, because……..IT WASNT! i had 1 too before u ask, and it was rubbish. ferrari challenge or whatever it was called was nowhere near as gd as gran turismo, graphically, soundwise, gameplay wise. did u work for sega while they were still making them or something? if the dreamcast was that great (and lets be honest, its name is gayer than graham norton dressed in a spangly pink fairy suit) why did it basically take sega under?

  17. joinsideke Says:

    Man i could go for some animal crackers with the frosting on them. You know, the pink ones? with the frosting? damn they’re good.

  18. The Queef Sisters Says:

    I want
    Shenmue series!!
    Sega Deep Sea Fishing
    Dave Mirra’s BMX
    Crazy Taxi
    Virtua Tennis
    Collin Mcraes rally racing
    nah fuck it I’ll just get my dreamcast out

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  20. Robotron Says:

    @xST-ANGERx

    Because it’s my opinion and I enjoyed it and the many games that were released for it….and it just looks like you’re trolling so piss off.

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