PS3′s 3D Future Detailed
With the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas debuting all forms of new technologies and cutting edge electronics, 3D imagery has become the main focus point for industry giants such as Sony, Samsung and Toshiba. Sony has positioned itself at the forefront of the 3D market, aiming to become the undisputed global leader in the sector bringing numerous 3D products to market over the course of the year. The multinational corporation also plans to use the PlayStation 3 as a vital foothold into the new market through firmware updates that will enable its 3D functionality.
At CES, Kaz Hirai, Group CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment, announced that the PS3 will become fully 3D compatible later this year. There will be two firmware updates at some point in 2010, the first of which will add 3D Stereoscopic Gaming functionality to the PS3 and the second will add 3D Stereoscopic Movie functionality. With many 3D products costing far more than the average person’s salary it is reassuring to know that PlayStation owners will be receiving a 3D movie player and a 3D gaming machine for free.
What do you think of Sony’s 3D push?
24 Responses to “PS3′s 3D Future Detailed”
my only question is once your ps3 is 3d capable what would you need to get the effect? glasses? would the glasses have some compatibility with current tvs? a new tv?
@WestSiide
You’re going to need a TV that supports 120Hz as you’re going to need 60Hz for each ‘eye’. Also the TV will probably need to support HDMI 1.4, which means you’ll definitely need a new TV, and new cables to boot!
It’s looking like it’s still going to be pricey to upgrade to 3D, since HDMI 1.4 TVs aren’t even on the market yet.
@ubernause
your incorrect, you dont need hdmi 1.4 just a 120-600hertz TV and any version hdmi. 120hertz TV (the most basic) has hdmi 1.3a, the PS3 slims also has a 1.3a hdmi connector.
1.4 is for FULL HD 3D (1080p in both eyes) which is not even available in theaters. what you saw in Avatar and everything else is stereoscopic 3D its 1 step under FULL HD 3D. HDMI 1.4 just carries a wider signal, internet connection and some upgrades but all backwards compatible with older HDMIs sets.
you would need a 1.4 on every component to get the benefits.. it WILL still carry the signal, just not the extras.
to recap : 1 HDMI cord and a 120hertz (basic)
@shadowjin
I stand corrected. At least that is a weight off my mind
to be safe I would just make sure to have a TV that says it’s 3D ready…if it doesn’t say somewhere then call your manufacturer
Actually just having a 120hz tv will not be sufficient. Giese095 is correct that it needs to say 3D ready. 120Hz tvs can be interlaced with 60hz blackscreens to reduce blur resulting in only a 60hz image.
If your looking to buy a TV just get a Plasma, all plasma’s are 600Hz and their better than anything else on the market.
Sony does not do Plasma. But will the PS3 replace the transmitter required for the 3D glasses needed to view games/movies in 3D.
They would do better to get 3D movies out first in the firmware since they are easier to convert.
yes I completely agree with Xael.
BUY PLASMA
Plasma technology has gotten really good over the years and the prices are still going down for them. Hell I can get 2 50in Plasma tv for the same price as 1 50inch LCD.
Plasmas are still has the best picture quality out there. All these new tvs are still just trying to match plasma’s quality but still plasmas are the best.
In summary let me reiterate………..BUY PLASMA
Also I am expecting the 3D firmware possibly released around the same time their new tv line comes out
I wonder if they’re going to screw the original 60gb’ers.. on this. I don’t wanna say, just like the Dolby HD, etc., . it can receive it, yet, can’t decode it, need a HD Receiverd that decodes it, but then it only comes out in Linear PCM , and NOT Bitstream.. Now I have read a few, ok, MORE then a few articles on it, and while I am no audio-phile geek, reading one thing, and then others gets mighty confusing at times.
@skullking123
spread that Plasma love man. I got a 42in Samsung Plasma, it really looks great. But unfortunately though I don’t think my TV is 3D ready, because I’ve done a lot of research and all Plasma’s from ’08 and on are 600Hz. I bought my Plasma in December ’07! I called samsung to see if they can confirm the specs for my specific TV, and the dumb bitch that was on the other line was really clueless as to how to find out that information. I’m crossing my fingers that the model of my TV made the 600Hz cut, but it’s a gamble. I’ll just have to wait and see when the firmware update drops.
I bought a 46″ Samsung L.E.D. at Best Buy and it’s 120hz..yet when i go to change the settings for it, the 60HZ number doesn’t change. So when I called BB and spoke to my salesmen, he explained what 120hz REALLY is, and i was kinda ticked. So I said basically they are false advertising, right? He said, YEP.. So i asked, well what about those TV’s that do 240hz, up to 600hz..
is that BS also?
YEP… NO TV does pure 120hz, let alone does PURE 600HZ, cause it’s impossible right now, the technology isn’t there yet. All their doing is alternating the images and backlighting, making it SEEM like it is truly refreshing at those speeds.
I thought, wow, what a bunch of crap.
So I got home and called Samsung, and told them about the 60hz number, NOT changing when i went into the settings when I have the football game on and they said, it WON’T CHANGE because the TV is 60hz. So I said, but the ads say 120hz, is that BS? It’s not totally BS, but at the same time, it’s not PURE 120hz(again i hear this PURE word from BB, and now Samsung)
If you go to Sound n Vision magazine, i think even CNET has it, they talk about the Refresh rates and what TV are TRUE, L.E.D. tv’s….. True LED’s have “full array” backlighting, meaning the those backlights are spread across the entire screen, and turn off and on when needed, unlike others that claim to be full LEDs, when it fact the backlighting, is ONLY around the edges of the screen, shining the light inward.
@ giese095
while its a safer bet… the only TVs that label themselves 3D ready are newer DLP, LCD’s, LED, Laser Tvs and organic display TVs.. that do 120hertz-240.. the processing is done by the machine ie PS3 or 3D blueray player.. the signal is than split into 2 my the television. I recently bought a new TV but my old Sony had 120hertz and NO WHERE in the handbook did it say anything about 3D, yet i was able to watch 3D programing.
@Drexal
actually yes its enough..
do your research.. 3D is 2 signals going in each eye. 60+60= 120. check multiple websites like the 3D manufacturers ie Samsung, nvidia, Sony etc. ubernause was partially correct but he understand the basic component of 3D. Why do you think multiple articles (non gaming) already say that most people have a 3D TV? Plasmas have high refresh rates but not all do 600hertz …only the new ones . your TV only displays the image. The processing is done by the machine not the TV.
@Haskall
do you know how the CS images display on a 8-18 bit panel? if you know the answer to that, than you know that Hertz is very important on TVs and makes a HUGE difference.
Nothing displays in 120-600hertz but they benefit the TV image and allows people to watch 3D movies. Did you know that LED is a new version of LCD? You do know that not all customer service’s reps actually know what the hell there talking? (besides the basics).
One of the many benefits of higher refresh rate is clarity, movement and response time. Most HDTV’s have a 5-8 second response time and higher hertz plasma TVs have 0.02ms ( milliseconds ) and LCDs/DLPs running 120 hertz-240 have 2-3 seconds.
Plasmas are still rated as the best TVs to own for picture, response time, image reproduction, color etc (check sound and vision magazine and ANY home audio site).. LEDs are awesome television and there close to matching a plasma display. Did you know that newer Plasma’s have an antiburn feature? also an internal program that washes the pixels to make it “forget” the burned in image.. (called pixel shift)
120-600hertz has its benefits BEYOND just refresh rate..
and Haskall
your 60GB PS3 CAN do all the sound reproductions as the slims but using LPCM instead of bitstream.. the slims only audio benefits are passing the signal threw bitstream BECAUSE all PS3 slims have a HDMI 1.3a connector and old fats have HDMI 1.2. Audiophiles will say that LPCM is more pure but in reality its the same! except your receiver wont light up..
^ edit : You do know that not all customer service’s reps actually know there product?
lol was power typing..my mistake.
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hello …
don’t worry! 3D will be here & we all will find some way to beneficiate from it.
as usual SONY moves the electronic Market, i bought a 42″ LCD TV for the PS3 & now i don’t buy DVDs anymore, but Blu-rays, i even neglect PC gaming so when 3D will be out, just look for the ones working fine & buy it, i know i will some times, now just need to find that bank to rob
cheers!
@ giese095 “yet i was able to watch 3D programing”
Can you describe the programming you watched in 3D? Was it a game or blu-ray or tv? What glasses did you use?
Shadowjin
I work with high frequency rate monitors. I have to have a synced signal with 120hz. I can tell without a doubt that the earlier 120hz televisions are not true 120hz. They are 60 hz of images and 60 hz of black screen. Do you understand? One frame is an image the next is a black screen then the image then the black screen. Call any tv manufacturer and check on this. I know the frequencies required for 3D. I do research for a living.
In case you are curious I bought a Samsung LN52A750 for my father. It is 120hz. It is NOT 3D capable. When Circuit City was going out of business I took an oscilloscope and a laptop to the store and asked if I can test the 120hz screens because I have to be able to sync a 120hz signal. You CANNOT put a full 120hz signal out to those tvs unless it is 3D ready!
Even a 120hz DLP projector we use in the lab doesn’t completely sync at 120hz. Its 105-130hz ranged. If you plan on using 3D with glasses it definitely needs to be synced per eye.
Wait. One thing I have to apologize for. The Syncronization is only required for 3D shutter glasses not the polarized 3D types. However, I am still fairly certain you require a 120hz signal that is not blackscreen alternating.
Based on my understanding. For a polarized 3D glasses setup, my presumption is that a 3D ready tv will be 120hz but able to produce different polarizations of light each at 60hz to total out at 120hz. So it will probably alternate frame horizontal polarize, frame vertical polarize, frame hz pol, frame vt pol, blah blah blah.
I just found out that the current 3D ready standard is not the same as the PS3′s. The PS3′s is based on polarization while the current 3D ready implies frequency synchronization meaning that just having a 3D ready tv is not the same as having a 3D tv to be used with the PS3
I have a 3d ready tv its a samsung hl-t5076s 1080p @60hz hdmi 1.3 . yes 60hz . This tv and many other DLPs likey this are on the list as being compatible with the ps3 firmware update and will produce 3d in 1080p. Just because your tv is 120 hz does not mean u can view 3d on it , it must be 3d ready and have 3d sync connection, check ur tv manuals.
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To lethal26:
I also have a Sammy 3d-ready DLP, which I already use in s-3d mode with my PC. 3d ready DLP’s are not quite the same as the new 120hz full 1080p 3d. What they do is take the normal 1080p signal and checkerboard it. This means that each pixel alternates sides, so half the pixels go to one eye and half to the other in a checkerboard pattern. Each eye is actually getting only half the resolution, but it works perfectly fine on HDMI 1.3.
Does anybody know whether the PS3 will support this checkerboard DLP 3d format?
P.S. This is my first post on this board. I’ve got to say that I like what I have read here so far. Good communication.