
With LG seizing 300,000 PS3s and planning to seize another 180,000, demanding up to $350 million and a ban on PS3 sales in The Netherlands, today marked one of the most important court cases in Sony’s long history as a technology company. Thankfully, it now looks like Sony has won the first battle against LG, not only defeating the company, but receiving reimbursement.
Dutch site InsideGamer.nl reports that Sony has won the summary proceedings and that LG will be made to pay €130,000 for the cost of the court case and €200,000 every day until all the 300,000 PS3s are returned. This has been corroborated by Florian Mueller:
It’s definitely true that Sony won over LG, an independent source just confirmed it to me!
This only covers the seizure of the PS3s, so LG still could possibly win a case against Sony for patent infringements at a later date, with the company probably set to continue asking for $350 Million.
I knew they would pull through. Now on to Geohot.
i knew this would happen. suck it lg and all you pathetic sony “haters”.
lg’s case is dead. if lg was successful in proving that sony inringed on their patents, the court wouldnt have ruled for lg to reimburse sony anything.
lifes not so good when you lose, eh?
Lol at picture. Whoo! I knew Sony would win
oh crap they used the chewbacca defense lol
I gotta say, I was a little worried there for Sony. Horrible thoughts of studio closures were filling my thoughts. Good for Sony for pulling through. Now Sony can concentrate on crushing Geo not-so-hot and continiue to give us PlayStation fans the greatest exclusive games on the planet.
Dont mess with the Black Beast!!!!
Only the seizure was illegal, and LG have to pay them for that. The lawsuit is still in process.
I know this a Sony based board. But wow, the comments here make me think that some people are stock holders or employees.
why do we need to hold stock or be an employee to get excited over something? i think sports fans are the worst. some act like they own the team, and some get genuinely mad when you talk bad about “their” team.
dont come around here acting like a douche. the less sony has to pay for dumb lawsuites, the more resources become available to make the platform even better, so we all win.
I think he’s talking mostly about the girl claiming “on to geohot!” or the guy saying they can now concentrate on “crushing geo-not-so-hot”.
It’s a fact, the main battle with LG has not been won yet, and while it’s perfectly fine to be excited about what has happened people are acting like the whole thing is over already like ignorant Sony sheep.
Being realistic isn’t acting like a douche buddy, get over it. And by the way, this court case didn’t having anything directly to do with patent infringement, just if LG had the units seized legally so this isn’t necessarily an indication of what will happen in the next case.
and btw, how the hell was the seizure illegal when it was court ordered? did lg and their mob stand at the ports to make sure the consoles werent further transported?
You’re reading an article where sony won the case, deeming it legal. How the hell are we supposed to have the details?
*ILLEGAL oops.
The civil court of justice in the Hague granted LG a preliminary injunction that will see all new PlayStation 3′s imported into Europe confiscated by customs for at least ten days.
key word: injunction = court ordered = legal.
Pay attention. That was without a hearing. LG said to I guess “the civil court of the justice in Hague” that sony was violating their patents and to seize their imports, and they just went ahead and did it. This hearing shows that they never had any basis to have the imports seized. Maybe illegal isn’t the 100% perfect term but arguing against it is just arguing semantics and you’re starting to look a bit foolish.
i understand this this was only a victory against the seized merchandise. Now lg has to reimburse sony for what i guess you can call an unjust injunction.
i was correcting twindad from saying that somehow lg, and lg only, had the power to illegal seize sonys merchandise. which is obviously not true since it was apparantly court ordered.
youre right, illegal is not the proper term here, i would just say sony somehow proved or was able to convince the judge that the injunction was unjust.
You said “LG said to I guess “the civil court of the justice in Hague” that sony was violating their patents and
to seize their imports, and they just
went ahead and did it. This hearing
shows that they never had any basis
to have the imports seized”
The law says “Dutch Patents Act of 1995 – a unique Netherlands law that allows action to be taken before court hearings take place.”
paying attention?
Cool story bro, but I never said they initially were in violation of anything or that they didn’t have the right INITIALLY to seize the consoles. I said it was decided at THIS HEARING, that there was never any basis, and it was basically “illegal” I already admitted illegal wasn’t totally correct, but it’s just semantics anyway.
There is no amount of attention I could pay that would allow me to predict what you will make up next.
No, you got upset and called him a douche for being realistic. Anybody can scroll up and read what was posted you know, I don’t know what you’re going to get out of pretending something different happened.
He said the seizure was illegal, which like I said if you’re just going to focus on that at all you’re arguing semantics, and he said LG will need to reimburse Sony.
He’s basically repeating what the article said to clarify it for the people thinking the whole thing was over. If he was somehow saying that LG alone had the power to seize the PS3′s then that’s what the article said too, and neither of them even implied that that was the case. I don’t even know what you’re arguing about anymore, we’re trying to state facts and you’re bringing things up out of context or completely making them up.
what are you, 12? im not arguing anything, just stating the facts. what am i making up?
“This hearing”, “That Hearing”. It doesnt matter! The law is the law. You dont believe me? who gives a shit. If you care that much, go read about Netherlands legislation for yourself.
twindad: “Only the seizure was illegal, and LG have to pay them for that.”
If the court ordered a seizure, how is that illegal? Its not. If you dont want to play a game of semantics, then learn the proper words to express what youre trying to say.
Wow again with the semantics? Fine, we’re debating. What are you making up? How about that i’m the one that looks juvenile here? The last time I even typed illegal without admitting it wasn’t exactly the right term to use was literally the first time I typed it today, yet you keep going on like it’s the center of the entire conversation because it is literally the only thing you corrected us on and you can’t give up that kind of success easy.
I don’t even know how to respond to you thinking this hearing does not affect if what LG did was right or wrong when that is literally the entire point of the hearing. It’s an idiotic statement whether you’re pulling some other argument out as if I was still saying it was illegal or not, which you totally were but I’ll pretend you weren’t so as to actually make sense with everything else i’ve said.
Never once did I say or even imply what the court did was wrong, illegal or any synonym you can think of. I said the results of this hearing are facts that prove LG had no legal basis to have the systems seized. Yes, it is abslutely legal to have them seized in the first place but if there isn’t a good enough reason you get consequences like these.
Can’t wait to see what “facts” you come up with next. Hope I didn’t make a typo you can pick up on, or maybe I should scan my posts with a thesaurus and pre-emptively fix mistakes?
ok ill try this 1 more time. but seriously bro, just chill out, no one is trying to make anyone seem foolish. ill try to keep it simple.
1) i called him a douche because the last part of his comment was not necessary. unless youre an employee or a stock holder you cant be supportive or show enthusiasm for something? regardless to whom the reply was for, it was stupid and unnecessary.
2) He said “the seizure was illegal.” That part is not true, so i simply asked where he got that piece of information from because ive yet to read an article where it states that lg was breaking the law.
3) you come in with your “interpretation” of what you believe he meant. Just because a ruling was overturned does not mean that the initial injunction was illegal. Unjust? yes. unwarranted, without merit, unfair? absolutely. Illegal? No.
Again, you said: ” You ’re reading an article where sony won the case, deeming it illegal”. (im assuming the seizure being deemed illegal, right?)
And i say, There was nothing “deemed” illegal about the seizure. It was all done within the court, as per a judge. end of story.
kind of a ridiculous debate.
1) You called him a douche because it IS ridiculous to ignore the bigger part of the lawsuit and you couldn’t handle that. He never targeted excitement on it’s own, just the idea that the entire problem was solved because of this minor case.
2) Right, and it’s perfectly concievable that, since as I said we aren’t all lawyers, he simply made a mistake on what term to use. What I don’t understand is why you apply his reasoning to my comments, long after I have admitted that I made a mistake?
3) Yeah, I have said that for at least 3 comments now, i’m not sure how you missed it.
You are now basically repeating what I’m saying, but adding “not illegal” as if I haven’t been on the same side as you on that for literally hours just so you can add something.
Again, the SINGLE TIME I SAID ILLEGAL WITHOUT ADMITTING IT AS A MISTAKE WAS THE FIRST TIME I SAID IT. I find it frustrating that you are continually ignoring this just so you can think you’re right about something. I’ll “calm down” when you stop being a frustrating ass.
I’m done talking to you, I’m now quite confident that it doesn’t matter at all the content of my comment you will twist it around to work in your favour somehow. You should apply for a job at fox “news”.
And I just have to add, I don’t know at all how you thought I said anybody was trying to make anybody look foolish. I said you ARE making yourself look foolish. I don’t have any hand in this and I really couldn’t care less, it’s just what you’re doing to yourself.
lol dude your hilarious. I stopped reading after your #1 because now you’re telling me why I called him a douche? Half the stuff you write doesn’t even make sense. you’re both douches, I’m done with you. the end.
lol, what a picture! The Chewbacca defense lol
Sony:
…ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
LG:
Dammit! … they’re using the Chewbacca defense!
Sony:
Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I’m a lawyer defending a major record company, and I’m talkin’ about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you’re in that jury room deliberatin’ and conjugatin’ the LG Court case, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
lol!
And the stupid hacker Geoshit thinks he has a chance?! MEGA LOL!!!!! XD
Yeah, the stupid hacker that is most likely smarter than you and I combined.
Good job Sony! I’m glad they won meaning more PS3 awesomeness for everyone to enjoy. Long live the PS3!!!