Sony: PSN “Account Information Compromised”, Watch Your Credit Card
After the PlayStation was brought down last week Sony admitted the possibility of an external attack, but were rather coy about whether your personal data could have been leaked. Now, the company have revealed that “an unauthorized person” may have obtained not only your personal information, but even your credit card number.
In a frank, but questionably late, post, Patrick Seybold announced on the US PlayStation Blog:
We have discovered that between April 17 and April 19, 2011, certain PlayStation Network and Qriocity service user account information was compromised in connection with an illegal and unauthorized intrusion into our network. In response to this intrusion, we have:
- Temporarily turned off PlayStation Network and Qriocity services;
- Engaged an outside, recognized security firm to conduct a full and complete investigation into what happened; and
- Quickly taken steps to enhance security and strengthen our network infrastructure by re-building our system to provide you with greater protection of your personal information.
We greatly appreciate your patience, understanding and goodwill as we do whatever it takes to resolve these issues as quickly and efficiently as practicable.
Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained.
He warned to be cautious of anyone trying to scam you using the information:
For your security, we encourage you to be especially aware of email, telephone, and postal mail scams that ask for personal or sensitive information. Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email, asking for your credit card number, social security number or other personally identifiable information. If you are asked for this information, you can be confident Sony is not the entity asking. When the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services are fully restored, we strongly recommend that you log on and change your password. Additionally, if you use your PlayStation Network or Qriocity user name or password for other unrelated services or accounts, we strongly recommend that you change them, as well.
And offered advice to US citizens on how they should protect themselves:
To protect against possible identity theft or other financial loss, we encourage you to remain vigilant, to review your account statements and to monitor your credit reports. We are providing the following information for those who wish to consider it:
U.S. residents are entitled under U.S. law to one free credit report annually from each of the three major credit bureaus. To order your free credit report, visit www.annualcreditreport.com or call toll-free (877) 322-8228.
We have also provided names and contact information for the three major U.S. credit bureaus below. At no charge, U.S. residents can have these credit bureaus place a “fraud alert” on your file that alerts creditors to take additional steps to verify your identity prior to granting credit in your name. This service can make it more difficult for someone to get credit in your name. Note, however, that because it tells creditors to follow certain procedures to protect you, it also may delay your ability to obtain credit while the agency verifies your identity. As soon as one credit bureau confirms your fraud alert, the others are notified to place fraud alerts on your file. Should you wish to place a fraud alert, or should you have any questions regarding your credit report, please contact any one of the agencies listed below.
Experian: 888-397-3742; www.experian.com; P.O. Box 9532, Allen, TX 75013
Equifax: 800-525-6285; www.equifax.com; P.O. Box 740241, Atlanta, GA 30374-0241
TransUnion: 800-680-7289; www.transunion.com; Fraud Victim Assistance Division, P.O. Box 6790, Fullerton, CA 92834-6790You may wish to visit the web site of the U.S. Federal Trade Commission at www.consumer.gov/idtheft or reach the FTC at 1-877-382-4357 or 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20580 for further information about how to protect yourself from identity theft. Your state Attorney General may also have advice on preventing identity theft, and you should report instances of known or suspected identity theft to law enforcement, your State Attorney General, and the FTC. For North Carolina residents, the Attorney General can be contacted at 9001 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-9001; telephone (877) 566-7226; or www.ncdoj.gov. For Maryland residents, the Attorney General can be contacted at 200 St. Paul Place, 16th Floor, Baltimore, MD 21202; telephone: (888) 743-0023; or www.oag.state.md.us.
We thank you for your patience as we complete our investigation of this incident, and we regret any inconvenience. Our teams are working around the clock on this, and services will be restored as soon as possible. Sony takes information protection very seriously and will continue to work to ensure that additional measures are taken to protect personally identifiable information. Providing quality and secure entertainment services to our customers is our utmost priority. Please contact us at 1-800-345-7669 should you have any additional questions.Sincerely,
Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Network Entertainment
On the plus side, Seybold did reveal that “We have a clear path to have PlayStation Network and Qriocity systems back online, and expect to restore some services within a week.”
We at PlayStation LifeStyle urge you to take all necessary steps to protect yourself from possible fraud in both the US and in other countries. If you have noticed any suspicious activity on your card, please contact us at tips@playstationlifestyle.net.
141 Responses to “Sony: PSN “Account Information Compromised”, Watch Your Credit Card”
Name, Address, PSN ID – Fine by me… IDGAF.
Password – FML
Man, I don’t have a card on there but this shit is some BULLSHIT. I’m mad at Sony ya know but this clown that did this is one of those dudes that needs to get stoned like back in the day with everybody he/she violated in the stoning crowd.
i would soooooooooo join in on the stoning, i’d bring large hot rocks too!
Every time I make a purchase on PSN I delete all of my credit card information. Now I’m going to change my login information as well.
Thanks for the update.
Yeah, so don’t you ever heard something about “historical data”? No? We have no fucking clues about it but the stolen data MAY INCLUDE backed up data from months old… This shit is getting very very heavy and freaky.
I’m just trying to protect myself as much as possible. Yes, there still is a chance that my information could be taken and yes I know that my information might still be there after I delete it. There is no need to insult anyone. I was just commenting about what I did about it and that’s all. All anyone can do now is protect themselves the best they can.
So the PSN could be down for another week, Sony got powned, so bad.
I guess so. Who ever got Sony they hit them really hard. ……Where it hurts.
I’m not too worried because I had a prepaid card on it. It’s not worth anything if your broke. lol
Yeah I got rid of my credit card information once I heard people were trying to hack Sony
This article made me feel better, I didn’t know the FBI was working on getting the people who did this. http://kotaku.com/#!5795410/despite-reports-no-arrest-yet-in-playstation-network-outage
I’d like to think that they are, and it’s probably true, but that article doesn’t say the FBI is working on it. It just says that the FBI confirmed no arrests have been made (contrary to a story by Gamethirst).
I’m not surprised that the authorities have been brought in. Although it might take a while to get whoever did the deed as the PSN network is a world-wide network and the attacker could be almost anywhere.
If that is in fact true, then, well…. All I can really say is hell yes! BURN you little pricks!!!!
Wow… what a PR nightmare.I think they are going to get pounded for not telling people that their information may have been obtained earlier. But if they did not know for sure yet, I’m sure they didn’t want to say it could have been compromised and turn out not to be. Either way, this sucks for everyone.
That said, is it realistic that someone really has 60 million+ people’s account info? And credit card numbers on top of that? Seems unlikely. Maybe a limited number.
It’s pretty sad there are douche bags out there that do this shit. Probably people Shadow calls his ‘friends’.
The “better safe than sorry” montra takes precidence here… Sony should have said from the beginning:
“There was a network breach. Account info was accessed. We dont yet know what information was taken, but assume that any information you have stored on your account was accessible.”
Even if it wasn’t true, and it all washed over, it would have been an immediate response and they wouldn’t be getting the flak they are now about “first notification of information breach 6-9 days AFTER it happened”…
I agree, they should have at least warned people of the possibility. As I recall, the EU blog was quicker to admit that it was a breach of the PSN that prompted them to shut it down. By at least mentioning the possibility, they allow people to prepare themselves and take precautions as they feel necessary; if credit card info was accessed, people could have been victims already without knowing why.
How about all those breaches that occurred at Mastercard and Visa clearing houses in Phoenix and in Conneticut that took months to be revealed? This politician is just stoking the fires of Congress will we see Jack Tretton in front of Congress next, if so then ask him under oath if the NGP is coming to America first and what happened to our version of the PSP-slim GPS hardware that was guaranteed to come in the fall of 2008….
Hey let’s make a Federal case out of this and why not just pull in M$ for baning modded boxes on XBL or cheaters in online game lobbies, lets just go for it all… ROFL
I never really thought about how many people use the PSN and how he couldn’t possibly have 50 million+ credit card numbers or debit card numbers. But just in case, I’ve been watching mine like a hawk.
Whoever did this will get caught. Stealing credit card info and personal information is a serious crime.
I know that if someone stole my account info, I’d want to spend a couple of minutes with them in a locked room for sure.
wrong, they werent “powned”.. the infiltration was probably not that bad. the system probably could have been back up within a day or so BUT sony is restructuring their system to reinforce it and prevent an attack like this from happening again
idk… It had to have been one helluva opening created, or some glaring opening already there. Normally, a simply patch to close up a hole would stop it from being hit again in the short term. This had to be serious enough to warrant a complete rebuild and security overhaul.
Even if the breach was not that bad, just all the bad press they are going to get is going to hurt them so much. Also all of the money they lost for keeping the PSN shut down for this long will hurt them. Devs will also be hurting from this and when PSN goes back up consumers might not trust PSN. There is a lot of repercussions that will happen because of this.
very true…this does hurt their intangible assets a lot, but i feel like most of us (playstation loyalists) have enough faith in our company to support them with everything….playstation fans are loyal…the ones who werent loyal flocked to the xbox the first time they heard of gays of war 3
GODDAMN IT CAN WE GET A FUCKING EDIT BUTTON? HOW HARD IS THAT?
I meant gays of war 1…obviously….
Looks like the “Call of Privacy : PSN’s modern spyware” article warning was true dated back in Feb 2011.
Sony sucks ass. lol. How about trusting a company to tell us that our information has been stolen much, much sooner. I mean how silly of us to worry about identity theft/fraud and the like.
Of course, we should be grateful that Sony told us anything at all about the whole matter. All praise to Sony and their amazing PR team.
do you have any idea how many times personal information has been leaked by companies or simply sold to other companies and they NEVER notified the public?
it happens all the time…companies suffer from breaches in security all the time, and you think sony is bad because something happened out of their control?….you can not just simply state from day one that theres a possibility of your information being stolen…they have to make sure that it is a real threat before issuing a statement…if you prematurely issue a statement, and it ends up not being a threat at all, you have just hurt yourself as a company
if you dont like sony, stop using their products and you can live your happy hating life
and please, leave this website because i, and others im sure, are sick of you posting bullshit like this
Sorry I don’t suck at the breasts of Sony like you other fangirls do. I own every system. And love each of them for various reasons. I don’t blindly follow a company like a schmuck would(i.e. you). If my comments hurt you deeply, stop reading them.
I really don’t understand the logic behind verbally bashing someone who is a victim of this type of situation simply because they are “hating” on the company. Sony was entrusted with personal information and they obviously weren’t using the proper means to protect that information nor did they act in haste to make a robust network after anonymous attacked them originally. So naturally people are upset and aren’t going to eat this type of information with a smile on their face.
Only logical conclusion I can come to for this type of behavior is fanboyism and if that’s the case I feel sorry for those who are like this because they have their head up an incompetent companies ass.
No Nosfu, you just suck on your own breast. Why do you even come around here? All you do is treat people like crap and troll. Get lost.
Wouldn’t it be worst PR if credentials were stolen but [company name here] decides to not tell unless they are sure. I wouldn’t want to see abnormal charges on my statement before Sony decided to tell me that my credit card info may have been stolen. I think your hat is on backwards.
@Nosferatu King
While I agree with what you’ve said about how Sony should have told us about the information leak, using the old argument “I own every system” to prove that you’re not a fanboy makes you look like a douche.
So, Doucheferatu King, please refrain from posting until you can form a valid argument.
Wow i’m surprised someone thumbs downed your comment, well I gave you 1up; I agree this is possibly the greatest CCS failure i’ve seen from a game company this generation, this many days to give everyone a heads up and now on top of everything we have to wait for the network to come back up to figure out the fate of our accounts.
What baffles me is coming on here and kotaku there’s people defending sony as if they shouldn’t be held responsible for for this situation claiming because it’s not a paid service they don’t have the resources to get proper security and therefore it’s not their fault; don’t people realize how long sony’s been in business and that they do have they funds for better security?
and this downtime could and should have been a scheduled maintenance right after anonymous messed with their service originally thus preventing this problem?
Well at the very least they finally provided the truth.
Both VISA and Mastercard themselves have had data stolen from their systems so it’s hard to blame Sony for something the credit card companies themselves aren’t full proof on…If someone is willing to work hard enough to protect a certain system, there will always be someone else who is willing to work even harder to break it…it’s a never ending cycle like riding a teeter-totter.
@giese095
I guess since the credit card companies aren’t secure then it’s ok for others to be insecure? That’s great logic there. It’s like trying to legalize marijuana by saying it’s less dangerous than cigarettes or alcohol. It’ll never be ok just because it’s just as bad or less harmful.
@StarENIX
So you read “hard to blame Sony” and turned it into “it’s ok to be insecure”? That’s some nice work chopping down your strawman.
It just means that because of the nature of hacking, how they handle the situation afterward is more important than that they were hacked at all.
Logic is sound there.
What does that retarded weed analogy have to do with this? Besides that it is completely irrelevant it doesn’t even make sense. You’re telling me that it’s logical for cigarettes, which cause cancer, to be legal when in most states a plant that kills pain that cancer causes is illegal? You’re telling me it makes sense to have places in public where you can drink until you can barely walk, jump into a car and put other people’s lives in danger, but it doesn’t make sense to let people sit on their couches and laugh at the discovery channel?
Whatever the hell you tried to mean by that last sentence it doesn’t matter, you tried to prove somebodies’ logic wrong by comparing it to an illogical situation and I’d like to thank you for taking the time to let us know that you’re a dumbass.
@JohnnyTruant5
Sometimes I hate replying to you. Where did I say I agree with the stupid laws that dictate it’s ok to drink or smoke cigarettes but not smoke weed? I said that it would never be ok (legal) to smoke weed just because it is just as bad or less harmful, as in it’s not ok that credentials were stolen from Sony just because they can be stolen from credit card companies. Yeah you can’t fully blame Sony, but they are responsible.
Oh good, you do understand how strawmen work. I hope you’ll use them less in the future.
In a legal matter, or any investigation for that matter, it is unwise to accidentally leak vital information on the situation before you know that wont compromise the situation in the first place. It is very likely that they were told, especially if the FBI is involved, not to leak anything on the matter until they have been given the clear. This happens all the time, in everything from the most minor to the most severe cases, in all legal matters.
I am not saying give them the benefit of the doubt, but simply that if you are to be reasonable in this matter, than you must have all things considered. Those who rush to attack are clearly irrational, fanboys, or just plain full of shit, that goes for those who are immediate to defend as well. Given the matter, the best anyone can do, is hope for the best, and remain optimistic that will those responsible will be caught, that no ones information was actually compromised and used in a harmful or irritating way, and that such matters will not occur again.
Hackers normally don’t take your info to charge money to your CC. That’s how they would get caught in about two minutes. What they will do though is sell off your personal information like name, address, birthdate to marketing firms that don’t give a crap where they get it from and then you’ll notice crap e-mails and or postal junk coming as a result. I don’t know how evil these guy’s are but my guess is that’s the kind of junk you’ll see at your house and on your computer in the months ahead. Sony shares some blame for letting them in.
You’re probably right, but in this case I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t do anything with the information. With all the people hating on Sony recently, someone might have cared enough just to hurt Sony’s image and sales with no benefit to themselves.
i just want to know if its a week from today or when all this BS started?
Today is day 6 of it being down, and sony said today that it would be up within the week. So before next Tuesday it should be up
5$ from my stolen credit card it wont
Why didn’t they tell us this last week? I thought they were legally obligated to tell us about something like this IMMEDIATELY, not give the identity thieves a 1 week headstart.
I mostly agree (kind of what I said above) but at the same time, it would let the thieves know they were on to them, and give them a chance to get rid of evidence or never use it and therefore never get caught. I don’t know what the law says about this type of situation, but it could hurt any investigation.
Because they probably didn’t know for sure until now. Better to wait until you’re sure then to scream fire in a crowded theater before you actually know it’s a fire.
I know the fire thing was just a common thing people say but this is definitely not a crowded theater where screaming fire, where there may not be one, can cause harm to others. This is a situation where the earlier you know of the possible damages the better. People would be able to track their credit usage and act immediately upon suspicious or abnormal charges.
you have to realize it isn’t always completely evident immediately what information has been compromised or taken…they may have truly only found out this type of info was stolen recently. Of course I am being extremely optimistic for the benefit of Sony, but assuming Sony doesn’t want to completely harm their reputation with its loyal consumers I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
Next time some one tells you that hacking a console or allowing for custom firmware is safe and legitimate remember this.
This can be traced all the way back to Geohots, fail0verflow, Chokolo etc. work. Not saying that this is what they intended but their actions and them leaking the information on the net what put the wheels in motion. They are indirectly responsible for this. I don’t care what their intentions were. The path to hell is paved with good intentions.
If there is any bright spot in all this, it’s that IF the attack was inspired by Anonymous and the hackers were truly only trying to harm Sony by hurting their reputation on security issues, I would be more at ease that my information wasn’t going to be used than if someone truly only wanted to hack Sony in order to steal credit card info. The only issue with that is if they are a rogue faction of Anonymous they may not hold the same principles and even if they don’t use the information there is no saying they wouldn’t sell it to someone else.
I didn’t bring up Anonymous but since you did I’ll just say none of them have have good principles. DDoS attacks are illegal. They are criminals and i don’t care what they claim their cause is. They aren’t above the law and need to be found and prosecuted.
What does this have to do with hacking a console? Was a PS3 used to commit this crime? Didn’t think so.
With a report that a customer firmware was used to trick PSN into thinking it was a debug console, yes, this is a result of custom firmware. Custom firmware that used the security keys Geohot leaked on the net.
@Jawknee1
Link to the report or you fail. If you show the report claiming this then I will admit the possibility. Even then it could just be a report for more people to be against console hacking.
http://www.gamepur.com/news/3336-hackers-targets-developer-network-gain-access-psn.html
Eat it!
I’ve ate it, and I also took the time to fully read it and understand it. I kniw theres a custom firmware called “Rebug”. It gives access to the private Dev servers. These servers most likely and shouldn’t have anymore access to credentials than a regular server accessed from a retail PS3. I also doubt it was accessed this way because then their would be a solution for jailbroken consoles to access PSN again. To my knowledge, there isn’t. This leads me to believe that report was full of shit.
Of course you would come to that conclusion because you have an agenda in protecting hackers and their misconduct.
@StarENiX
You haven’t heard of something, so anybody saying that is full of shit? Look at the ego on you…
Although it’s likely that this attack wasn’t a result of some zealot in Anonymous’ ranks it is very possible that a PS3 was used in the attack as it would allow for easier access to the PSN. Especially tracing where in the network databases account information was stored.
I am glad someone said it, this is entirely the fault of the hackers, starting with lil georgie holtz and carried right down the line to Anonymous. Sony did not start this shit and neither did the honest users who just enjoy gaming. Hackers threatened the security with the other os feature, Hackers demanded it back when Sony took it away, Hackers found a work around and hacked the PS3 anyway, Sony retaliated, and now Hackers took down our PSN by attacking the security of the users.
nobody can create a convincing argument that hackers are nothing but online terrorists. they should be treated like any other terrorist too. fuck them and fuck anyone who supports them.
I am 100% behind Sony and hope they find these fuckers and deal harsh justice, not to mention the mass lawsuit that will be found against those who took away the PSN many of us paid for and risked the security of our credit. I will be on board that fucker too.
oh man, WTF? this is WEAK! gah…
Even when I wasnt expecting this, im taking my precautions and actions to avoid any fraud or ID theft. And Im really not worried about losing another week of PSN if that means security will b increased. I dont know about you guys, but it isnt like SONY is the only company at risk when u use ur information. Stop b*tching this much, take necesary actions and be happy. And if your thinking about going to LIVE cuz of the “u get what u pay for” then just go, spend another $50 on internet connection and be happy, dont look back in regret hopefully.
I support the system I like the most cuz it gives me tons of relaxation time and enjoyable gameplay and online service. And is free with my system.. even thou now I have PSN+, yet I dont mind waiting another week. =)
Nothing is free. That is all.
Nothing is free, StarENiX? Really? Having you not watched EXTREME COUPONING ON TLC??!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I upset that they took so long with the credit card information. They should of said something immediately. Now I have to cancel my card and replace it. Major inconvenience from a service I trusted. Prepaid cards from here on out but that’s inconvenient too! Damn it Sony…I had your back up to this point, but you should of told us sooner. An email would of been great…I had to find out on another website.
The upside for me is that I don’t have any credit card information on the network. The account information makes little difference to me as I can always call Sony up and tell them that it was compromised in case they lock me out. I use PSN pre-paid cards for everything else and losing $10 isn’t that big a deal.
It is nice to see that Anonymous was honest when saying that it wasn’t them causing the downtime as Anonymous would have utterly no interest in our account information. None of us are important enough for them to attack us unless we specifically catch their attention.
It also likely took time for Sony to figure out exactly what happened as the attack was quick and went directly for the money. How do you ask? Well, if I had a hacked PS3 that could access the PSN then I could drop a program in to trace all my traffic within the Playstation Network. So I change my account information and the program would tell me exactly where it was stored. A place where everyone else’s data was stored. Then you just have to grab someone’s login and password to get internal infrastructure access and you can go directly for the money. It could even be possible to eliminate your tracks afterwards depending on what Sony allowed for that account.
So yes, a PS3 was likely used to gather intelligence for the attack. Yet more proof that George Hotz is a giant dick.
You can track packages being sent and recieved from your PS3 without hacking it. Take your bullshit somewhere else. Your entire comment waz fail.
lol @ you being under the impression that your comments aren’t
So where’s that hacker groupie kid now? Shadow something. This is that “karma,” right? This is what these wastes of life wanted all along? Bring down the evil corporation? I’m not even going to sit here and raise my shield for Sony. But this, THIS is too much. This is beyond proving a point. These self righteous criminals talk so much about showing corporations that they cannot do whatever they want. No. All of this derived from a little punk who refused to accept that HE could not do whatever he wanted. And now look. It’s all spiraled out of control, and innocent people are the victims. This has not a thing to do with PR damage. We’re talking about actual people’s private info possibly exposed. “Yea let’s steal some games and credit card numbers! That’ll teach Sony! ” The parallels between these groups and cults/terrorist societies are clear as day. A diplomatic solution is not even given a thought. It’s just attack because their cause is just, period. This is such a sad world.
You are speaking as if this was Anons doing. The hackers that stole the credit card info probably don’t give a shit about the ’cause’ Anon was fighting and could care less about getting at Sony. I doubt this was done to spite Sony, this incident was all about the money.
Oh I didn’t realize you had the inside information that we all lack, so you have proof either way then?
I didn’t say a single word about anon, but I’m glad you brought it up, because I find it asinine that because anonymous said it wasn’t them, that it obviously means it wasn’t them. I can’t even begin to understand why people believe them so quickly, and I also can’t understand how you can speak on the motives behind the attack with such confidence.
@KwietStorm
I said you were “speaking as if” it were Anon. Anybody that reads your comment can safely assume it were Anon you were talking about because if the details you included. Re-read it and see for yourself. I’m also not sure of anything, that’s why I used the word “probably.” Me being in doubt that this was to harm Sony is my personal opinion just like you assume this was to “Bring down the evil corporation”.
Or they could safely assume hackers as a collective as they have been referred. Assuming one way or the other is no different than assuming one way or another for the reasoning.
And the fact that you felt you had to share your opinion just because you disagreed with him makes you a douchebag just so you know. Most of your comments consist of this.
@JohnnyTruant5
Get off my ass you fuckin’ homo.
“And the fact that you felt you had to share your opinion just because you disagreed with him makes you a douchebag just so you know.”
I guess everybody who has ever made a comment in all of history is a douchebag. Dumbass
U mad? lol as long as you keep letting random people know your opinion as if it matters i’ll be right there to call you out for it.
““And the fact that you felt you had to share your opinion just because you disagreed with him makes you a douchebag just so you know.”
I guess everybody who has ever made a comment in all of history is a douchebag. Dumbass”
Why are you under the impression that every single comment ever made has been made in direct disagreement of some other comment? Who made the first comment that started this cycle if there was nothing to disagree with?
Or maybe your attempts to get me off your ass involve pulling anything you can out of it? Better have a deep cavity buddy.
@JohnnyTruant5
I’m not going to have the “which came first, the chicken or the egg” argument with you. The first comment could easily be a comment expressing disagreement for no reason or for an event which didn’t include a comment to reply to.
“Or maybe your attempts to get me off your ass involve pulling anything you can out of it? Better have a deep cavity buddy.”
You aren’t denying your homosexual intentions are you?
I will keep making comments expressing my opinion regardless of your constant trolling. You are the one that looks like a douchebag.
Wow that’s the biggest pile of bullshit I have ever read. YOU chose to use the words “everybody who has ever made a comment in all of history”. You can’t even come close to hazarding a guess at the intention behind comments that aren’t even recorded anywhere, which you chose to include, without looking like an extremely presumptious cock.
If you didn’t want a “chicken or the egg” argument, you shouldn’t have tried to make me look like an idiot when I could prove you wrong just by bringing it up. I mean really? You think the first sentence spoken by man was the caveman equivalent of “I disagree”? Can I see your credentials that make you any kind of an authority on history past your birth?
You are the one that was ridiculous enough to bring up sexual orientation because I think it’s funny exposing you to be a jackass, I just kept the ridiculousness going.
But seriously, you think you’re actually attracting anybody by letting anybody who doesn’t care to listen know your opinion? HAHAHAHA get over yourself, gay or not I have standards. And you sound like a jock from 10 years ago when it comes to gay people. What do you think they can’t control themselves and just stalk anything that catches their eye? Grow up.
I only troll you because you have so much of an ego that I haven’t EVER seen you post without it being a reply to somebody else, and it’s always either in disagreement or to add some LOL faggotry.
I said “The first comment COULD easily be a comment expressing disagreement”. I didn’t say it was for sure so I don’t have to prove anything. You act as if you could prove otherwise. I also have nothing against homosexuals, I just don’t like them following me around. I’ve told you this before. You and I will have never have anything together. Get over it please. You claim to not be attracted to me but your trolling behind every one of my comments prove otherwise.
Awww you’re so cute when you’re in denial.
But yes, your comments have me so physically attracted that I can’t keep myself from responding to them….I mean seriously listen to how fucking retarded that is and you tell me to get over it? Calling you out is proof I’m attracted to you? What are your only experiences of people being attracted to you from before sixth grade? This is getting hilarious, slightly pathetic but I’m sure you don’t mind being pathetic.
@JohnnyTruant5
You are a hypocrite. Your biggest beef with me is that I only make a remark or add something into a comment but here you are trollin’. Get a fuckin’ life. You are just as bad as Shadow-Runner. Is that Jawknee1 thumbing your comments up? Pathetic. Your name should be recognized as a contradiction on PSLS. I want to see a comment from you where you aren’t trollin’ or trying to one-up me. Get off my ass homo.
LOL U MAD!
How am I am hypocrite when I’ve essentially admitted this entire time that I’m just responding to you to piss you off because I think it’s hilarious. YOU stop being a hypocrite yourself and admit that 99% of your posts are in response to somebody else aswell.
I don’t care who’s thumbing my comments up, I’ve assumed you were thumbing me down this entire time but I didn’t even care enough to guess. I’d be more surprised than you if it were though, I was pretty sure he wouldn’t piss on me if I was on fire after our last encounter before this article.
I’d show you comments where I’m not responding to you, but you could get jealous. Wouldn’t want to jeopardize all the work we put into this relationship would we?
You mean you don’t see how this works? You take everybody’s information, putting people’s finances and sanity(spam mail is a bitch, it could really pile up and get to you) at risk so they can’t possibly purchase any more Sony(or any) products ever again! Win win right?
You dropped your tin foil hat!
Haha what? I don’t understand what potential motives for accessing credit card info has to do with government conspiracies, please elaborate.
*Exaggerated potential motives at that.
So with my college and batteries.com, this could make 3 companies that have had my credit card information compromised. It probably won’t be the last either,
Nice outlook on the matter.
this is scary and it just doesn’t hurt only Sony it also hurts everybody else and it will end up hurting M$ in a way. from the moment Sony said PSN down i started to keep an eye on my CC statements and credit report just in case, i didn’t need to wait for Sony to tell me this. and we don’t know how bad or how much troubles Sony was having on their end.
glad i faked my PSN Birthday lol also happy i never used a credit card on PSN. so people know my name and address id like to see them come to my house. and i never open emails do people actually still use email regularly? i mean who needs email when theres facebook
There are no words that can describe how you ended your comment. It was just so…….. Plz tell me it was some kind of joke.
They won’t use any of the information, because they know as soon as they order something on Amazon with your credit card, BOOM, you have their address.
These are marked men. They can’t brag about it. They’re afraid to walk outside, because if one person finds out, these people are either dead or in prison.
I think we are missing the point here, Sony is not at fault here. GeoHot is fully responsible for this, and Rebug.me for the CFW that enabled users to steel the information in the first place. This Rebug CFW was built on GeoHot’s original Jailbreak and used to access our information. Sony pulled the plug on PSN the minute it was discovered. They had to confirm that our information had been stolen “first” before they released that statement. So who is to blame here? GeoHot and Rebug.me for giving users the tools to obtain our information. Sony are victims along with us.
Where is the evidence that this was a result of the Rebug CFW?
Come now StarENiX, just think about it. Its not that hard to understand that Rebug had access to the information that was stolen.
@Russia
So what info does a Debug console on a Dev server have access to? Show me the proof and I’ll admit I’m wrong.
@StarENiX
Can you prove it wasn’t Rebug?
@Russia
No I can’t but I am sure someone would be willing to prove it wasn’t if you asked on the right site. Anyway you are dodging the question. You said geohot and rebug.me are fully responsible. You have to have evidence to backup such a statement. The guys working on rebug aren’t stupid. They would know if something is potentially dangerous or not.
Don’t bother answering him Russia, he’ll just tell you you’re full of shit because he doesn’t want to admit his boyfriend is responsible for this travesty. People with an agenda Don’t like facts.
Funny coming from someone that fails to give me facts. That link you provided earlier provided nothing to prove a valid point that Rebug was used to do this.
What ever helps you sleep at night chump.
Well besides for the usual bs spam mails claiming to be Microsoft, Walmart, Amazon, and Ebay. I guess those people can try to send me “Sony” Email now. And to those who think Xbox Live is safer look at this link
http://www.destructoid.com/banned-xbox-live-user-hacks-microsoft-exec-s-account-198039.phtml
date 4/4/2011 enjoy
Ugh, Jim needs to changes his profile picture. LOL!
There’s a big difference between sniffing packets, gathering info from private “supposed to be closed protected network(Sony’s) and some kid getting lucky by brute force password guessing and or answering fallback password recovery mechanisms.
oh no this kid used a hacking tool before you tube pulled his video down showing how he did it. That wasn’t luck, that was faulty security on the “superior” Xbox live.
but, but, but they pay for it so it MUST be better and more secure!
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forgot to add my sarcasm tag.
They do say the next big attack or terrorist attack is going to b over the internet wnd its infrastructure…a viral attack! Is this only the beginning? Will we make it out alive? Idk… but “its time.to kick ass and chew bubblegum…and im all outta gum” – D.N.
+1 cause ur funny
Gotta lighten the mood..we cannot let them tear our brotherhood apart..in times of need and mortal (and ps)distress..we must stand together..and unite as 1..poke em in the eyes if we have to! *battle cry*
its nice to see someone trying to lighten the mood on a topic that could potentially start lots of debates and fights
Sony UK has revealed info about the situation that SCEA didn’t want to tell us.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/26/sony-provides-psn-update-confirms-a-compromise-of-personal-inf/?m=false
“Here’s what Sony UK indicates was exposed:
Name
Shipping address
Billing address
Country
E-mail address
Birthdate
PSN/Qriocity ID
PSN/Qriocity password
PSN/Qriocity security question and answer
Purchase history”
LOL! Owned.
Aw man way to make it obvious to everybody else that I replied to the wrong one…
I know. I screwed that up >.<
“Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained.”
I am pretty sure all of that information can be found in this paragraph, but nice try.
LOL! Owned!
Whew, nice save. We almost looked silly there.
I love this comment, http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1261596481_3Fw2MnJ-L.jpg
i’m just glad that sony is doing everything they can within their power and giving us so many numbers and websites and info as towards what we can do to protect ourselves and find out more info. it shows great responsibility on their part. they could’ve left us stranded and not told us about any of this but instead they took it upon themselves to do so. yet another reason i like sony
has anyone else gotten an email from sony about this?
“Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email, asking for your credit card number, social security number or other personally identifiable information.”
Or do you mean basically what this is but in email?
yes, an email stating prteey much what was posted on the blog and here. haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere. just being a bit paranoid, seemed odd to only get an email for one account. when i have several. nor any friends from psn. (we text and call outside of psn, good people)
I wonder, if Geohotz knew his original custom firmware hack could have the potential to do this, that he felt it best to leave the country?
Cause I’m kinda betting he did.
Could you imagine the legal ramifications if his “harmless” custom firmware hack allowed for these blatant illegal acts?
Actually, I can see why he would have settled and left.
This happened during his case, he would have been destroyed.
Him settling and leaving the country, then this happening now soon after CANNOT be a coincidence.
talking about the reddit article? thats some wicked shiz right there. unfoundedly smart, yet incredibly stupid. not geoputz, the one that modded it to be dev firmware.
Honestly, I really don’t understand your post.
This is purely speculation on my part, but if Hotz’s original “hack” was used, his court case would have backfired on him completely.
I’m just pointing out some thoughts and coincidences I am seeing.
He said his “hack” could not lead to piracy, but if his “hack” was used in any way to accomplish the theft of personal information, they would blame him, and many would agree.
His actions then bothered me, and speculating on the current situation, this seems to make things a bit more clear and understanding.
Again, just speculation, though.
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/gx6o4/im_a_moderator_over_at_psxscenecom_the_real/
that is what i thought you were talking about.
Hmm, they are saying more that it was access to download anything from the store, not really about accessing confidential and personal information.
Interesting, none the less.
I was just throwing out some speculation of mine I’ve been pondering over.
But that article claims that Hotz “hack” could be used to turn a regular PS3 into a “Dev Console” though I do not know what that access could entail.
I am completely convinced it was his work, among the other jailbreakers, that was used to create the custom firmware that allowed this intrusion. Looks like Sony settled too soon.
all i have to say about hackers is this: they fucked over the genesis, they fucked over the dreamcast, and now they’re fucking over the ps3!!!!! i fucking hate those assholes and pirates!!! they ruined console gaming!!!!!!!!!! if the ps3 goes under so help me i will be DONE with gaming!!!! and if psn goes down for good then EVERY ps3 user is fucked because of these hackers and pirates!!!!! GO TO HELL HACKERS AND PIRATES!!!!!!!!
i hope and pray for sony’s sake that the network goes back up soon, and that people forget quickly especially since ign, g4, and game faq’s are giving out misinformation.
hello …
i wish for things to get better, i miss PSN & hope the culprits are put to jail.
some hackers are terrorists, we need to fight back & soon they shall see what is meant by fiddling with our stuffs. there is no anonymity on the net, soon you will see.
cheers!
ok, things are really starting to get nasty now, gamers turning against other gamers worse then before. fights over whcich console is safer, little note: all consoles can and have been hacked so none is really better then the other right now so xbox people, SHUT-UP! microsoft is obviously loving whats goin on right now, after all this will most likely get them their number 2 spot back……………..right now i’m pissed at them for being insensitive about this, rivals or not they should at least show a little sympathy to sony and stand up against hackers with them. people who are freaking out about the network being down need to calm down, just cuz you can’t online game for a few days isn’t the end of the world! yes this part of the hack is a cause for concern and i’ll admit it is something to worry about, but we mustn’t think the worst, all we can do is hope nothing happened and try to be optimistic and just.be.patient!
totally agree with you. i just don’t get it either why gamers are aruging with each other right now about the situation, its like the hackers planned this to happen for gamers to argue and start pointing fingers on who do what etc. imo all gamers of all consoles and pc need to come together for a change ends this bickering with one another and stand up as one to stop hackers who pursue in crap like this and ruining gaming for everyone.
this day will live in infamy for the sony community but you know what we will move on and we will get stronger and rebuild to maximum capacity we can.
I agree as well. Everyone needs to chill out. Especially when your info is already out there from other companies & websites. Also this is the first time that psn has been out this long after 4-5 years. Patience will give you the best rewards.
I’m glad i got Lifelock
That way if you’ve fallen and can’t get up, you can get help? Oh wait.. that’s LifeAlert.. I always get the two confused. nevermind!
“We have discovered that between
April 17 and April 19, 2011, certain
PlayStation Network and Qriocity
service user account information was
compromised”
I didn’t enter my account info until 4/20. wonder if that means my info couldn’t have been compromised..?