Stopping SOPA: Anonymous Talks Motives, Aims and Hurting Sony
Turning back to where you said that some media sources will always present you as terrorists. Surely you are only proving them right by damaging innocents, and professing that you so want to cause terror among some individuals.
How about I leave it at this? We simply want them to realize, if they infringe on rights, they should expect us. That is what we are meaning.
OK, so fast forward a few months: SOPA is passed, despite your best efforts, and Sony is still supporting them. Then what?
Can’t say, a lot can change in a few months, but Anonymous wouldn’t give up. We have ways around it. We would organize, public opinion grows stronger with us than ever before, and they are forced to repeal or who knows… Again we don’t plan months ahead.
Fair enough. How about if Sony stops supporting SOPA, but it is still passed? Will you blame them for their original role in the matter?
We want Sony to actively oppose it.
If I was a decision maker involved in passing or refusing SOPA, I’d have seen that a huge company like Sony was supporting it, and then suddenly retracted support and went against it. I’d then look into why, and see that they did it simply for fear of losing profit due to online attacks. In that case, I’d likely ignore their change of stance as just a response to the hacks, and know that they’re really pro-SOPA.
The government lives to serve corporations. If enough go against, they won’t do it.
But it’ll be clear to the government that they’re not actually against it, they’re just publicly against it.
If we do it once, we can and would do it again, they have to honest to god fight against it, with their resources and everything. You’d be amazed by how much something like this could cost Sony, and what they would do. Either that or not be able to ship anymore goods/give them out for free.
When will this plan to takeover Sony.com be enacted?
If I’m not mistaken, once all other preparations have been completed and team Iota has caused enough chaos, it shall begin. The actual hack will be on January 23rd. The plan is to hack into their sites all the time leading up to the 23rd.
Then team gamma’s info (the dox team) and team beta’s formatting, along with team alpha’s links to download everything, and team epsilon’s work on the store so everything is free will be put into place. Along with an Anonymous press release.
And then, how long will the attacks last?
Good question. Probably at least a day. But not more than a few days I’d say, Sony will want to recapture it ASAP, and they may just pull the plug on the server.
Couldn’t they just do that straight away?
Except doing that means they can’t take it back, it means we’re better than them.
Is this all conjecture though? Have you (Anonymous that is) already discovered holes and exploits on their sites?
I’m sure we have. Have no doubt, we found holes in CIA’s website, we can find one’s in Sony’s
But comments like those are exactly why many watch you with fearful eyes. Can anyone feel safe?
Yes. Unless you do something stupid, or evil, we won’t trouble you.
If you found out that pro-SOPA groups were successfully using your attacks to show the ‘dangers of the web,’ that every time Anonymous hurt Sony, their agenda gained public and political support – would you stop?
If that was the case we would convince the public that is not the case, and we would think of a new plan, Sony would probably be left alone. And larger fish would be fried.
But isn’t there a worry that that could already be happening?
Yes, but again this plan is not perfect, and we shall see exactly what happens.
Isn’t that a risky attitude? There’s a reason the political process moves so slowly.
Risky, but necessary.
If it backfires and does make things worse, would you feel guilty?
No, because we tried something, unlike others.
Well I’ve gone through the normal legal process of voicing my distaste to politicians.
And are they listening?
No way to know just yet, the process is still on-going. Are they listening to Anonymous’ attacks?
Either way, Sony should have expected us.
But surely Sony isn’t the focus of the attack, stopping SOPA is.
True.
But through Sony we can get to SOPA, also Nintendo is starting to hum a different tune at the same time as Sony. They already took of their name, but they haven’t officially gone against it, or withdrawn support.
So Nintendo might be ‘pushed’ to do that?
Nintendo is afraid and is in turn starting to slowly withdraw support.
‘Zerit’ then ended with “a message from Anonymous to Sony”:
Sony,
You should have expected this,
You should have known better,
We will not forgive your attempts at censorship,
We will not forget your support of SOPA
You should have expected us to strike.
We want to appear more professional, we want to scare the corporations, and let them know we are a force to be reckoned with.
Recently Anonymous has been getting more organized and mature, we are evolving, having more fun, and being more effective
This is arguably the most organized Operation so far.
The use of intimidation in the pursuit of political aims, then?
No the use of looking professional so as not to be treated like a bunch of little kids.
I saw one IRC member on OpSony, who had openly done a lot of dox work, mention that they were born in 1996, when discussing Sony musicians.
Point?
It might be fair to say that you could end up being treated like a bunch of little kids if a bunch of little kids are part of the group.
Not everyone is that young, most people are 18 or older actually. Plus we have proved again and again that we can do things, adults cannot.
Now this Op is rather different to last year’s – Sony is the target, consumers aren’t. Do you think the original Op was handled incorrectly?
I think so, I think that we hurt the common people and we learned from that and the BART protests… as I said, Anonymous is evolving, more efficient, and more dangerous to those who dare do wrong.
Anonymous don’t forgive or forget – what’s the point of companies/individuals who have been targeted changing their ways, from their perspective?
We don’t forgive your mistakes, nor do we forget them. We keep tabs on our targets, almost without even meaning to. If you’re a “Repeat Offender” shall we say? You shall be punished more harshly than before.
We do not forgive or forget is very flexible and can mean many things, that is just one of them.
Ah, I see
Again, nothing in Anonymous is “official” for Anonymous is not “official” some things are just more commonly agreed upon then others.
SOPA could lead to internet censorship, including the altering and taking down of sites. To protest, Anon is planning on altering and taking down Sony’s sites – couldn’t that be seen as hypocritical?
It could, but we are not trying to limit their free speech, we are trying to make their profit margin go down. If we wanted to limit their free speech we would take their facebook, twitter, and whatever else they use.
Well you are still trying to limit their free speech right to support SOPA
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” – Evelyn Beatrice Hall
That is not the point to this operation, our main objective is to make Sony lose enough money where they not only withdraw support to SOPA but actively oppose it. Everyone should have free speech, however there is a fine line. If what a few say hurts the rights of millions of users, then a few hours or days of silence is a small price to pay.
But again, we are not intending to take away their communication.
But like you said before, most customers don’t use Sony.com. People don’t go to Sony sites to buy Sony stuff. Do you think that it’ll really hurt their revenue that much?
Yes considering we plan on making all the stuff free, then for the shipping we will use the CEO’s CC info, not to mention we are out in the real world, and it only takes on whisper for it to go viral that now you can get a TV for only the price of shipping.
Yeah, but it’s not as if Sony are actually going to ship the TVs.
Except it is mostly automated and we are in the process of making sure Sony is locked out.
You can’t stop them calling their distribution centers though.
True, but how long until they notice, not to mention, then they won’t be able to ship any out and they will lose money.
Would you like Sony to go bankrupt?
No.
Why do you think we’re not targeting PSN? If we bankrupt them it will hurt consumers a lot.
Sony is used by a lot of people, and overall a good company, they just have some bad policies at the moment.
But consumers will lose out from a poorer Sony. It slightly damages the economy, it means they have to lower their R&D spending, it means less products.
Sony is not the economy, it is a part yes, but not a huge part. And if they decrease quality, naturally consumers will leave for alternatives meaning even less money for Sony.
Ok, moving back to broader questions – many of the proponents of SOPA say that the internet is a lawless, uncivilized place, and that piracy is an example of the rampant crime on the web. Surely hacking and doxing simply re-enforces those claims? Is Anoymous really making things better?
Saying the internet is lawless and uncivilized is BS. on every site but the deepest pits of the web, there are rules and mods. Even on 4chan!
As to the other question…
I promise that there is more crime in real then on the internet.
Crime is just more obvious on the internet.
And yes we are.
Of course, and murder is far worse than hacking. But by emphasizing the crime on the internet, you’re helping fuel public opinion that the web is a dangerous place.
Anonymous is not going away, and we will continue to develop faster than any computer security can, and we will stand up to injustice. Last time I checked, the constitution is above every law congress makes.
I don’t think that’s public opinion at all. It all depends upon where you’re going. Like in real life, there are bad neighborhoods.
But in real life, whenever there is a terrorist attack, politicians are able to quickly pass laws and legislation that limit free speech, riding a wave of public fear. This time, people are trying to pass laws and legislation that limits internet free speech. As a response, you are doing something that could loosely be described as terrorism.
Last time I checked the purpose of #OpSony isn’t to make them do what we want with fear, it’s with quarterly reports.
So it’s more of a protest.
But fear will be a side effect. Your own plan, and numerous IRC chats that I’ve had publicly and privately, show that Anonymous aims to get a lot of publicity from the protests/hacks. To use the quote again – “we need to appear like some elite hacker force to the news channels and to the nation’s technically illiterate grandmothers”.
It’s fair to say that if you do achieve this, people who are technically illiterate, who don’t know entirely what SOPA is, or who Anonymous are, will simply think ‘an ungoverned group of people with tremendous power to cause mayhem on the web’. Thus breeding fear, and helping fuel the pro-SOPA, pro-controlled internet agenda, no matter how flawed it is.
Fear is a side effect yes, but Terrorism is using force to hurt innocents on purpose to get what you want. We never want to hurt innocents.
The official definition of terrorism is using terror to push a political or moral agenda. Bombs, killing etc, doesn’t have to be a part of it.
Those who are technically illiterate won’t be able to register to vote or send letters to their representatives.
Plus the Reps don’t represent us anyways, except on election day.
But reps do stuff to gain favor of the public, even when it’s not near the election. If the news starts reporting on Anonymous attacks, public opinion could sway towards stopping those attacks, making the internet a “safer place”. The largest internet stories of 2011 were probably Anonymous attacks.
Anonymous has been called an “internet hate machine”, and the sheep can believe that if they want but no matter what, Anonymous still delivers. We would like for the public to side with us, and they will, as long as we keep fighting the fight for their internet and rights.
Also, people are naturally curious, they will look up stuff about Anonymous and see the truth, and then most likely, they will join us.
Those who outright lie too often shall be taken care of.
But the mass media will present you as terrorists, SOPA supporters will be able to say “we don’t negotiate with terrorists”, and gain support for what is otherwise a flawed and unpopular bill.
We’re still seeing laws passed that limit human rights due to post-9/11 fear.
Yes we know this, and we have already been presented by certain mass media sources… *cough* Fox News *cough* as terrorists. And we laugh at this wild accusation. Plus you forget that we are giving the people free movies and music, they will more likely see us as robin hoods.
But you already said that movies and music are easy to get anyway.
True, but not movies out in the movie theaters…
or new movies like that.
So innocent directors and screenwriters will be hurt? They’re not part of the 1%
Again, that’s not the point here. We don’t want to hurt anyone but the Sony executives, and Sony’s bank accounts. Unfortunately this plan is not perfect, and I don’t claim it is, I admit there will be unfortunate losses by some who were not intended targets. And we shall apologize for this.
Well you could still be effective without releasing new movies…
Too late, already underway. Besides they won’t lose much.
Can you give an example of some of those movies?
Jack and Jill [removed torrent link] • Arthur Christmas [removed torrent link] The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish version) [removed torrent link] The Adventures of Tintin[removed torrent link]
Taking the largest movie there, Tintin – that was only co-financed by Sony
They will still lose money.
So will Paramount, so will the actors, the screenwriters, the extras
Not as much.
Paramount had a bigger investment in the film, they both co-produced, but Paramount spent $30 million on pre-production.
Will you look at that… they support it too… that’s convenient.
Not meant, but convenient.
But that’s the point, this research wasn’t done before. And I’m only using Paramount as an example. Films have hundreds of smaller investors, and smaller cogs that will all suffer. Couldn’t it be said that you are acting recklessly to be seen as the next Robin Hood?
Again, plans not perfect, no choice of action is, but it hurts a lot less then shutting down PSN again. Plus I promise the damage won’t be very much to these smaller companies. What’s really gonna hurt Sony is that their products either can’t be shipped or they’re free.
Turning back to where you said that some media sources will always present you as terrorists. Surely you are only proving them right by damaging innocents, and professing that you so want to cause terror among some individuals.
How about I leave at it this? We simply want them to realize, if they infringe on rights, they should expect us. That is what we are meaning.
Ok, so fast forward a few months – SOPA is passed, despite your best efforts, and Sony is still supporting them. Then what?
Can’t say, a lot can change in a few months, but Anonymous wouldn’t give up. We have ways around it. We would organize, public opinion grows stronger with us than ever before, and they are forced to repeal or who knows… Again we don’t plan months ahead.
Fair enough. How about if Sony stops supporting SOPA, but it is still passed – will you blame them for their original role in the matter?
We want Sony to actively oppose it.
If I was a decision maker involved in passing or refusing SOPA, I’d have seen that a huge company like Sony was supporting it, and then suddenly retracted support and went against it. I’d then look into why, and see that they did it simply for fear of losing profit due to online attacks. In that case, I’d likely ignore their change of stance as just a response to the hacks, and know that they’re really pro-SOPA.
The government lives to serve corporations. If enough go against, they won’t do it.
But it’ll be clear to the government that they’re not actually against it, they’re just publicly against it.
If we do it once, we can and would do it again, they have to honest to god fight against it, with their resources and everything. You’d be amazed by how much something like this could cost Sony, and what they would do.
Either that or not be able to ship anymore goods/give them out for free.
When will this plan to takeover Sony.com be enacted?
If I’m not mistaken, once all other preparations have been completed and team Iota has caused enough chaos, it shall begin. The actual hack will be on January 23rd.
The plan is to hack into their sites all the time leading up to the 23rd
then team gamma’s info (the dox team) and team beta’s formatting, along with team alphas links to download everything, and team epsilon’s work on the store so everything is free will be put into place. Along with an Anonymous press release.
And then, how long will the attacks last?
Good question.
Probably at least a day. But not more than a few days I’d say, Sony will want to recapture it ASAP, and they may just pull the plug on the server.
Couldn’t they just do that straight away?
Except doing that means they can’t take it back, it means we’re better than them.
Is this all conjecture though? Have you (Anonymous that is) already discovered holes and exploits on their sites?
I’m sure we have. Have no doubt, we found holes in CIA’s website, we can find one’s in Sony’s
But comments like those are exactly why many watch you with fearful eyes. Can anyone feel safe?
Yes. Unless you do something stupid, or evil, we won’t trouble you.
If you found out that pro-SOPA groups were successfully using your attacks to show the ‘dangers of the web’, that every time Anonymous hurt Sony, their agenda gained public and political support – would you stop?
If that was the case we would convince the public that is not the case, and we would think of a new plan, Sony would probably be left alone. And larger fish would be fried.
But isn’t there a worry that that could already be happening?
Yes, but again this plan is not perfect, and we shall see exactly what happens.
Isn’t that a risky attitude? There’s a reason the political process moves so slowly.
Risky, but necessary.
If it backfires and does make things worse, would you feel guilty?
No, because we tried something, unlike others.
Well I’ve gone through the normal legal process of voicing my distaste to politicians.
And are they listening?
No way to know just yet, the process is still on-going. Are they listening to Anonymous’ attacks?
Either way, Sony should have expected us.
But surely Sony isn’t the focus of the attack, stopping SOPA is.
True.
But through Sony we can get to SOPA, also Nintendo is starting to hum a different tune at the same time as Sony.
They already took of their name, but they haven’t officially gone against it, or withdrawn support.
So Nintendo might be ‘pushed’ to do that?
Nintendo is afraid and is in turn starting to slowly withdraw support.
A message from Anonymous to Sony:
Sony,
You should have expected this,
You should have known better,
We will not forgive your attempts at censorship,
We will not forget your support of SOPA
You should have expected us to strike.
Pages: 1 | 2 |
29 Responses to “Stopping SOPA: Anonymous Talks Motives, Aims and Hurting Sony”
Great Article But I Feel There Going About It The Wrong Way… I Also don’t See Them Attacking Microsoft,Apple & ect who also support SOPA & imo Anonymous really are just proving the Goverment’s Case because the truth is Hackers Are Powerful and People fear that power and some want it… One of The Reasons The Internet is being Censored is because of Hackers they helped bring this on us not intentionally but they did. Government Doesn’t like that Anonymous can do whatever they want when they want messing with peoples money & lives so what it seems like is Anonymous has all the power & they do so the government is trying to stop that. Its too late now the war has already started kinda like the Civil War… I Suggest to Anonymous is to go after Microsoft & Apple also seems like Sony is the little kid at school who’s already been bullied so there picking on him.
SOPA’s existence and /b/tards being retarded are kind of a chicken and egg thing… Maybe if you stop paying attention to them they’ll go away, like Paris Hilton
I feel that Anonymous is walking a dangerously thin line. They have no central leadership, which they claim is an advantage, but in actuality is a double-edged sword. Who is to say that their isn’t corruption going on inside this loose-knit organization? Their choice of attacking sony again, while they could attack numerous other corporations that support SOPA equally if not more than Sony seems to hint at a underlying theme that they in general just hate Sony. While I have not read their proposed plan for attacking Sony, it seems as though what they are saying in the document and what they say to make themselves seem more noble are two different things. Saying that they want to garnish fear with these attacks, and that they openly acknowledge that innocent people will be hurt, seems to go against everything they stand for. But this Zerit person seems to believe that is illiterate people who are misunderstanding what they are aiming for. Whether they agree or not, their actions can be seen as terrorism. They are ACTIVELY trying to sway another person or group of people’s thoughts and opinions through actions designed to make them fear and and cower away from their own opinion. I know that Zerit and some of the people in Anonymous are trying to do what they think is necessary and right, but they have to wake up and smell the coffee. They are not doing anyone a service by being virtual terrorists and being hypocritical when it comes to the freedom of speech. I do not support SOPA, I believe it infringes on every Americans right to freedom of speech. I do not affiliate myself with Anonymous, and I have openly questioned their methods in the past. I Think that get the support that they think they are earning by carrying out this attack on Sony, they need to re-think their plan and make it so that NO INNOCENT people are affected by this. Either way, it will be interesting to watch this all play out.
they are just terriorist . Has much has they say they are not, they are. They don’t want to hurt no one but want to hurt sony workers.They dont want to see Sony closing there doors forever. But want to attack there bank accounts. I don’t get it. Can someone clear this up for me cus this guy is making no point what so ever. There are ganna make this bill pass. When it passes and they see that people see them has terrerist there ganna hack Sony because there mad. They didnt mature in any way. Maybe if we find them girl friends they cann stop hideing in there moms basement. Whos wit me?
They are not doing anyone any favors, other than themselves. There are proper ways of dealing with this, that are working and mostly involve the “people” they assume to protect. Sony has already backed down from SOPA support, due mostly to the negative impact they see it causing their support base, consumers. This whole SOPA thing has been on going for quite some time now in different names and forms. Why now? Why Sony? Why not do the right thing and follow protocol in this matter? Is it that hard to just be involved and fight the good fight? Instead of playing dirty pool and watching the whole thing blow up in everyones faces.
I do know this much, if they go through with their asinine plan and this bill gets passed. I blame them solely. The big bad corporations are doing what they feel is just. No matter how wrong we may feel it is, it’s their right to try. I don’t support either side, just my own. Leave things as they are, my internet is fine without either Anon’s or SOPA’s meddling. The world doesn’t need impromptu heros, it needs BETTER people.
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” – Evelyn Beatrice Hall
I don’t think you could really use this to say anonymous are wrong is attacking Sony for SOPA when the nature of SOPA would imply that the people supporting SOPA disapprove of our freedom of speech on the internet and clearly intend on attacking it.
The main problem I have with anonymous though is that they have no direction amongst them, their called an internet hate machine for a reason because they’ll attack people when the majority of us don’t really care about what’s going on. The lack of a leadership just dosen’t work for anyone why do you think the FBI, CIA, MI5 and heck any group has a leader?
Because they need ranking something to keep people in place and to make sure their not swaying away from the point of the group like for example using their hacking skills to steal from people.
They just want the attention. That is all. And worse of it is that they justify laws like SOPA by acting the way they act. Yes, SOPA is an awful law, but ask anyone who after a hard day of work try to play Battlefield 3 a little to discover that those guys have taken down the servers. The people who just wanted to play will not care about their cause, but about not being able to play.
Anonymous claim that they will not affect Sony’s consumers, but how we can be sure about that? Who punish Anonymous members if they cross the line? Honestly, there is better and legal ways to fight SOPA than let a bunch of kids we know nothing about act unchecked.
[filtered]
Can’t these sites just ignore these *****? :-/ & let the FBI(or whoever)hunt them down & stop them? Just a thought:D
They don’t attack MS and Apple (not to mention others)simply because they are scared of them. They had a go at Sony and succeeded so it’s an obvious choice.
If they are as smart and tough as they say they are why not going after Uncle Sam himself ???
Bunch of wannabe heroes that fight an imaginary fight Don Quixote scenario if you ask me.
So in trying to stop SOPA, they are attempting to force Sony to oppose it. Nothing like trying to fight for free speech by impeding others’. While I, like many, do not support SOPA, Sony has a right to support it if so desired. This is quite possibly one of the worst ways going about opposing SOPA. Everything they do is just going to support passing the SOPA. This is just an excuse to go after Sony again.
Im not saying the political process is always perfect, but I do support the government because, let’s see, that is there jobs? Definitely support more than a group of hackers, many of which aren’t even of legal age or live in the US. Let the people who actually know what they are doing do their job and stop hurting the people you are ‘fighting’ for. All you want is the attention anyways. That is one thing you have proved over the last several months.
As long as they’re trying to stop SOPA… Pressuring Sony might not be the most ethical way, but then again, there’s nothing ethical about SOPA. At least their intentions are good
I love how every single time the interviewer says that this isn’t going to help or that it will hurt users the lackey just says “That’s not what we intend”. Well, great, but that is what is going to happen. When someone drives drunk they don’t “intend” to kill someone on the road, but that could happen. Doing this is just going to bolster the law and they are helping no one. I hope they all go to prison for this. While the law is beyond stupid, what they are doing is worse. The ends do not justify the means. This is like anti-abortion people trying to get their point across that murder is wrong but to do so they murder md’s who do abortions. It is hypocrisy at it’s finest.
sorry, believe them/him/her/whatever, NO! The last Sony hack my credit card details were stolen and USED.
Is no one else interested to see if they can pull off any of this stuff they are saying? Anyone curious in the least? I am.
Seb, I want to comment on your article. I thought it was a fantastic read, and you really hit Verit with some excellent questions. I felt you come off a bit one sided (opposed to Anonymous’ actions), rather than impartial. Overall I thought your journalist skill in this interview was extremely professional.
Personally I enjoy reading articles about Anonymous. Sometimes I feel like my hands are tied and I feel helpless to do anything when stupid laws like this are being passed. I can’t stay I’m 100% against them. It feels dirty agreeing with them, and I think this attack is going to be all over the place, but I still can’t say I’m not happy about it happening. It’s war, and there are always innocent causalities.
If I actually believed that they stood for what they say they do then I would have no problem with it. The whole thing stinks of self agenda/revenge though.
So I take it you won’t be one of the ones trying to get a tv shipped for free?
Definitely not. I have this thing called a job where I can buy myself anything I want instead of relying on what amounts to stealing from a company to get it.
What they’re doing is not only akin to internet looting, but if they do this then it will be a federal crime and they WILL go to prison if they are caught (and quite a few were caught last time)
Sorry, that was meant as a joke. I forgot to put the
at the end of my sentence.
It’s all good. I figured you were. I think that if you take advantage of this then you are flat out stealing from sony.
Because journalists should always be neutral. Even when the reader is given a warning that the opinions expressed in the piece are the opinion of the author and not of the publisher.
What is amazing is the Narcissistic attitude of this group of IT nerds. Its like I always say, “You think yourself so SMART that you act like a STUPID FOOL. This is just an example of that. They were taught in Colleges in IT proficiencies and they have found holes in Microsoft’s OS which have not been filled since Microsoft needs those wholes to do what Microsoft does.
Until we are able to get some competition in the OS world we are at the mercy of Gangs like Anonymous. I have shifted my Internet computer to Ubuntu so as to be a smaller amount of safer, but with the “Open Source” nature of the OS it can be as insecure as M$ since it takes longer to fix a whole because those who work on it have other priority jobs in the industry to feed their family and put a roof over their head.
“It might be fair to say that you could end up being treated like a bunch of little kids if a bunch of little kids are part of the group.”
“Not everyone is that young, most people are 18 or older actually. Plus we have proved again and again that we can do things, adults cannot.”
An adult is a person that is over 18… So, if they are all over 18, what are they? “do things, adults cannot.” Who is illiterate? LOL
Just like with what they did with Bart, OWS and Sony, they hurt the workers and consumers. Their goals will always be to hurt others…
The Anonymous member comes across as a cult member who neither understands how the music industry works, how SOPA will actually effect the world, or how causes and effects play upon each other. He appears to be a person who desperately wants to be taken seriously but has drunken the kool-aid and seriously believes what he’s been told instead of what he’s seen occur.
I hope when they start rounding up the more active hackers in this round of idiocy that they don’t choose him since I’m not sure he knows what he’s doing in the first place.
Shadowrunner? Is that you?
hello …
it’s not SONY or other big Corps who would push SOPA up, I already said so & quite often last year, it has begun & the hackers and pirates themselves are fueling it. With their repetitive actions they are pushing the authorities to counter-attack by any means.
a war that used to be known only by some will now be fought by everyone with unprecedented virtual collateral damage & ISPs can & will be on the authorities side for law would make sure they do comply.
oh, don’t forget that on the net, nothing, absolutely nothing is anonymous, it’s just an illusion!
Happy New Year 2012 …
cheers!
LOL at the “we are not little kids” then stating “we can do thing adults cannot”.
These guys are just acting little kids and he knows it, regardless of age, hence the talk about being more “mature” and trying to show people they are actually “professional”. But ever since I heard the “you stuck your penis in the hive” line it showed that these guys really are operating with the mental ages of 16 and below, regardless of physical age. Who else would use such a ridiculous line.
I don’t really buy the excuse for going after Sony, it just seems they are butt-hurt the PSN hack didn’t have the effect they thought it would, and want to hack Sony again, Microsoft also supports SOPA, they are bigger than Sony so why not hack them too, and numerous other companies?
It’s silly to just focus on Sony then try to tell people they are being more “professional”.
This is such a nice reading! The funny thing is, going back to the question [of thinking of them as a bunch of kids], i still think THEY ARE A BUNCH OF KIDS. They want to protest support of companies to this law, good! go for it. But they only seem so butthurt with sony they disguising their shame with these attacks/threats. Whatever they do, it most likely backfire at them with bad media and more dislike/disgust/hate but they will surely make a comeback with moooooore attacks saying they are just fighting the good cause. Can we move on to something that really matters?
I agree, I think we should move onto more important matters like the impact of Paint drying on the UN or the impact of anything happening anywhere to anyone.
I can’t believe CNN is going to do a special on these guys. The last thing these guys need is more publicity.